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Published Date: 24 January 2008
IT HAS been derided as an eyesore by conservationists, shoppers and architects since it was built in 1973.
Now, the St James centre in Edinburgh has revealed proposals for an £850 million transformation in what could be come the biggest city centre development for decades.

Plans unveiled yesterday include a public square, roof-top garden, two hotel
s, shops, luxury flats and new streets.

The original building, an example of "brutalist architecture", would be demolished to make way for a three-storey, crescent-shaped arcade.

The ambitious plans, which could be completed by 2015, were welcomed last night by conservationists.

Moira Tasker, director of the Cockburn Association, said: "It is an opportunity to rectify the mistakes of the past and create a legacy this generation can be proud of."

Sebastian Tombs , chief executive of Architecture and Design Scotland, a body set up to champion good architecture, said: "The skyline is a very important aspect in thinking about the cityscape.

"Now is the time to be thinking quite boldly, asking questions and exploring all the issues."

However, Dr Miles Glendinning, of Docomomo Scotland, a pressure group that fights to preserve 20th-century buildings, said the plans would be "unforgivable" and quickly become out of date. But he conceded: "There is such a consensus among civic opinion that this postwar building should go that it would be impracticable and implausible to put up a fight to save it."

His comments came on the first day of an eight-week public consultation on plans by the centre's owner, developer Henderson Global Investors, to demolish the existing centre.

The centrepiece of the proposed St James Quarter in the heart of the Edinburgh World Heritage Site would be a crescent-shaped, glass-roofed multi-level galleria, inspired by the 19th-century Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II in Milan. The arcade will sweep from fashionable Multrees Walk to the centre's current Princes Street entrance.

The John Lewis store alone, of all the current 50 retail outlets, would not be demolished but the other shops could be housed within the galleria.

Chris Pyne, senior portfolio manager at Henderson Global Investors, said: "This redevelopment will provide a major boost to retail in the heart of the Scottish capital. We recognise the significant public interest in the St James area, and the importance it holds for … the city."

Continental-style shopping - complete with roof garden
THE new St James Quarter could replace the existing St James shopping centre.

• At the heart of the proposed development is a crescent-shaped, glass-roofed, multi-level galleria with public-access roof garden. Existing shops, except John Lewis which will stay where it is, could move there.

• Three distinctive new buildings adjoining the galleria will house cafés and restaurants on their lower floors.

• A series of continental-style public squares will be included to encourage shoppers to walk through the quarter from different directions.

• The venture will involve the creation of a new street from Multrees Walk to the entrance to the present shopping centre in Princes Street. The crescent shape reflects the design of streets in the New Town.

• There will be two hotels, one of them five-star. The Thistle Hotel may be the second one.

• There will be office suites and the potential for a number of new homes on the galleria's upper levels.

• There will be a cultural hub – an independent cinema, art gallery or festival venue.

• A new public square, lined with cafés, restaurants and a hotel, is proposed for the area around St Mary's Cathedral.



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COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 24/01/2008 00:38:09
THE.AREA.AROUND.ST.MARYS.SHOULD.BE.RESPECTED
2

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 24/01/2008 00:38:14
THE.AREA.AROUND.ST.MARYS.SHOULD.BE.RESPECTED
3

Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 24/01/2008 01:29:58
God how time..'flies'.!
I remember this atrocity, since the day it was built!
And that atrocity of a sculpture at the roundabout.

Mind you, it WAS a 'MAD' time in our life's!, when it was designed, (late 60s) some of the worst constructions ever to have been built in our century!

Was the 'Weed' to Blame..??

(Hi Man,..I have been smoking..'The Grass'..Man,,but I am an architect..'Honest'..Man..my deluded brain.. Man..Will..give you a great Building Man!)

And the 'suckers' approved!

I for one will be interested in seeing its 'Revamp',

'Man'...:-))
4

Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 24/01/2008 01:33:40
And you wonder why they banned 'smoking'..?
5

donald,

glasgow 24/01/2008 06:09:59
What were they smoking when they designed that effrontery?
6

A Better Way,

24/01/2008 06:59:37
Hey Charles,doesnt time fly by. I rememember the St James Centre being built. Even though Edinburgh was full of sandstone housing that in most cases was black from the coal fires.

The Kinetic Sculpture was famous not because it looked like Scaffolding that had been caught in the great winds of 1969. No it was meant to light up under its own power, brightening the days and nights of us poor citizens, who thought a day at Gullane Beach or Portobello Beach was a big deal. Of course at Porty one had to be very careful to check which way the wind was blowing from the Seafield human waste discharge pipe. If it was blowing to the east, people were inclined to give it a go by. And some people still long for the past.

The St James Centre was ugly when it was built, and will remain so until the last bits are knocked into history.
7

Unimpressed one,

24/01/2008 08:10:53
The kinetic sculpture was quite iconic for its day although let down badly because it used quite primitive technology. These days with ultra high powered LEDs, something quite spectacular could be commissioned and put in its place. Sadly once bitten...
8

Unimpressed one,

24/01/2008 08:12:36
Since we are going round Edinburgh and earmarking architectural dinosaurs for demolition, how long before the monstrosity at Holyrood is slated for 'redevelopment'?
9

eric,

Lothian 24/01/2008 08:33:40
Is this effort going to stop hundreds of folk shopping in Glasgow eeerm NO.
10

J.B.Oliver,

Glensarria 24/01/2008 08:39:52
Good news for all who love Edinburgh... Then, when will we see the demolition of the horrible Parliament building?
11

eric-shaun,

Lothian 24/01/2008 08:41:48
10
Is that effort going to stop hundreds of folk thinking you're a t?sser eeerm NO.
12

Mr H 2u,

Embra 24/01/2008 09:33:38
Is there something wrong with all the developers out there? Well, we know the answer to that one. So, rather, why is it, that even when they come up with a vaguely good idea, of which this is one, that they have to throw something contentious into the mix?

In this case, they want to throw up a hotel on council owned land directly in front of St Marys Cathedral. And you can be sure that they'll claim its an 'integral' part of the project despite being on the one bit of land they don't actually own.

Madness.
13

carrottop,

Dumfries 24/01/2008 09:41:06
Would anyone bother to replace it if it was making lots of money, this stinks of opportunist developers getting their way, there are just as bad in Princes Street and the city centre in general.
14

1745,

Edinburgh 24/01/2008 09:54:26
The Galleria in Milan is beautiful if we can have a reproduction of it... great However the JL store should be demolished too.It is a huge eyesore.
15

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/01/2008 09:56:26
What the hell is wrong with the St James Centre? What is an "eyesore" about it? Since all the fuss started a while back, I've been looking at the place and I can't see what is wrong with it.

It has a car-park. It is reasonably easy to get to. It is clean. It works. Why change it?

£850m for a set of bl00dy shops is a bit steep. Leave things as they are. Why do we need TWO crazy, needless, expensive schemes running in Edinburgh at the same time?

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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/01/2008 09:59:17
"Continental-style shopping - complete with roof garden"

Oh right! Now all we have to do is to get some continental weather organised then. If what the eco-nazis say is true then let's all buy 4x4s, drive them on short journeys and leave all our lights on...

Have the designers of this new center ever BEEN to Scotland?
17

Logie Almond,

24/01/2008 10:04:38
Some sloppy journalism here again. The St James Centre is the shopping centre, a large part of which will remain under the new plans. The office block (formerly New St Andrews House, now I think St James House)will be demolished which even the idiot from Docomomo Scotland has to admit would be a good thing.
18

Gothic Rose,

24/01/2008 10:11:14
I`ll have one of thier luxury flats,thankyou very much.
19

Harriet Field,

24/01/2008 10:37:28
This may not be such good news as it appears. If you look at the consultation document it seems to be proposing that one high building should be replaced either with another high building or a group of high buildings! And what about the wonderful Paolozzi sculptures in front of the cathedral?
20

GP,

24/01/2008 10:47:10
1# & 14# this building you so cherish remains mostly unused and should be knocked down to make way for more shops and other relevant buildings.
The kinteic (or wind powered lights) sculpture failed, I winder why?
21

GP,

24/01/2008 10:48:50
Maybe the will find the body of the man who went missing from the old bus station.
22

Buttress,

24/01/2008 13:17:42
A new Director has been announced today for Edinburgh World Heritage Trust.


23

Buttress,

24/01/2008 14:32:47
http://www.ewht.org.uk/New-Director.aspx
24

grantcat,

old town 24/01/2008 21:53:30
It's about making everything the same. Those who think it is an "eyesore refused to listen to the Cockburn Society,community and residents groups and heritage organisations in the 60s and 70s they were seen as stuffy and anti-modernity. New buildings are only designed to last 40 years, the St James Centre didn't even get that far. Yet the Georgian Square, the tenements, shops and terrace that once occupied St James Square and Leith Street were demolished. The houses and shops in Greenside waited 30 years to be replaced by The Omni Centre.

And they want to make the same mistakes in the Canongate with the Caltongate Scheme check out www.eh8.org.uk and www.independentrepublicofthecanongate.blogspot.com

It could drive you of yer heid
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Kitti Kat,

25/01/2008 00:06:10

Edinburgh seems determined to build some of the ugliest buildings in the UK> Just when I thought nothing could top the LLOYDS of London building, up when the Scottish parliament building. The St. James Centre is an eyesore and I had hoped that something classy would replace it. Edinburgh is a beautiful city but some of the crap they are building will make it not so lovely.
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why can't I use my own name???,

musselburgh 25/01/2008 10:55:27
Whilst the SJC is appalling, even by '60s/'70s standards, one must focus on why there is so much concrete around. The answer lies with New St. Andrews House, the old Scottish Office HQ that is tagged onto the other side. Underneath all that is a nuclear shelter, from whence wee George Younger et al would have 'continued government' in the then-likely even of the rest of us being toast and bacon!
27

why can't I use my own name???,

musselburgh 25/01/2008 10:56:27
Post #26

I wholeheartedly agree!!
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Leila,

Edinburgh 26/01/2008 15:48:06
#24&25: I agree with you, Princes Mall used to be a great shopping mall especially when it had the water feature originally, but there have been hardly any shops there for several years now, and consequently not many shoppers either, and although things are slowly improving there are still a lot of empty shop units.

Contrast that with the St James Centre which, however it looks from the outside, is busy and thriving, and nearly all the units are let. We are constantly hearing that the retail offering in Princes Street is relatively poor, and the St James Centre is pretty much part of Princes Street. So closing down the St James Centre is going to be a major loss, and I really don't see how they can do it. I also don't see how John Lewis can prosper in the middle of a building site and isolated from the other city centre shops.
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eric,

lothian 04/02/2009 07:41:43
Sounds like liverpool one ,hideous,

 

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