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Published Date: 26 September 2008
THE historic boat link which connected Cramond with the Dalmeny Estate could be set to make a return.
Plans have been drawn up for a "chain ferry" which would allow walkers and cyclists to avoid a three-mile walk to the nearest bridge and would replace the old rowing boat which took sightseers across the Almond for more than a century until 2000.

It comes after Lord Rosebery objected to plans for a new 30-metre bridge, claiming it would attract an unsavoury crowd to his land.

Engineer John Carson has designed the new ferry as a solution and has won the support of Cramond Community Council as well as local councillors and, more importantly, Lord Rosebery, as it would not allow access all day.

They would, however, have to find funding to cover its estimated cost of around £250,000.

Mr Carson said that chain ferries were common throughout Europe, although this would be the only one in Scotland.

The ferry is guided across the river by a series of chains and cables, which are linked to both shores. It would be manually operated by cranking a handle and would be large enough to take up to 12 passengers, including those with wheelchairs and bicycles.

He said: "These ferries aren't a new idea – there used to be one across the Clyde and they are common in Norway and Holland.

"There would be a mechanism to lower people on to the platform. It would have a ferry operator and would only operate at certain times, so there would not be access to Lord Rosebery's estate at night.

"There's no way you could have the old rowing boat back – it didn't have access for the disabled."

He said the Waterfront Partnership, Cramond Heritage Trust and Cramond Community Council had all been enthusiastic, as well as city councillors Kate McKenzie and Norman Work.

Bill Scholes, chairman of the community council, said: "I think this is a good alternative, since the bridge is no longer an option."

The old rowing boat stopped operating in 2000 when the foot-and-mouth outbreak and a crumbling jetty combined to consign it to the history books.

A spokesman for Sestran said it could not comment until it had seen detailed plans.

But Councillor Phil Wheeler, the city's transport leader, said

: "There is no funding available for a ferry in this area."





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  • Last Updated: 26 September 2008 11:23 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: East Lothian
 
1

Ned Culture,

the scheme 26/09/2008 11:58:49
How is this an island link?
2

Dunaskin,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 12:02:28
Title is mince. And Phil Wheeler is a twit - he was blathering recently how wonderful Sestran's ideas for a bridge were, without asking how it would be paid for.
This is a nice idea, but it must be very low priority.
3

Dunaskin,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 12:03:57
Also note that the EEN have called this an EAST Lothian story..... Why?
4

Dunc,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 12:17:23
What about a tunnel. A bridge is totally unsuitable in high winds.
5

alex paterson,

edinburgh 26/09/2008 12:18:34
What happens if they lose the handle,have they got a spare one.
6

D Napier,

26/09/2008 12:22:12
I'm surprised Mr Carson hasn't proposed a chain ferry for the new Forth crossing!!!!!!
7

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 12:28:56
"There's no way you could have the old rowing boat back – it didn't have access for the disabled."

And that is a valid reason is it? What's the next step? To ban rowing boats? To provide disabled toilets on submarines?

How daft. Wheelchair users have never been able to use rowing boats because... guess why? It's a ROWING BOAT for christs sake.

Having said that, a chain ferry seems like a good idea.
8

Incandescent,

26/09/2008 12:30:58
#8 Away with you, troll! You obviously favour a bridge in that nice wee spot so you can live under it and reduce your commute.
9

Incandescent,

26/09/2008 12:58:25
#9 #11 - I agree also. Jobsworths are misinterpreting the DBA in exactly the same way the Health & Safety brigade have been doing for years (to such an extent that even the Chief Executive of the HSE commented on it not so long ago.) I won't bore you with a Duncie-style copy-and-paste, but the key consideration is that businesses should attempt to provide the same level of service *where possible and practical*. They are neither expected, nor legally compelled to drive themselves out of business or unfairly limit their services. In fact, they are not in breach of the DBA until a complaint is received and they fail to take such *reasonable efforts*.
10

farmer bob,

up my own ***e 26/09/2008 13:17:45
Was the Renfrew ferry over the west not a chain ferry????
11

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 26/09/2008 13:18:09
I always enjoy walking at Cramond because it's easy to push a wheelchair, but I'd have no interest in crossing the river on a ferry if there's nothing but a rough path on the other side.
12

farmer bob,

oops 26/09/2008 13:19:25
oops, never read the whole article, it does mention the renfrew ferry, he must be as old as me
13

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 13:28:12
"...which would allow walkers and cyclists to avoid a three-mile walk to the nearest bridge..."

Whay would walkers wish to avoid a walk?
14

Wee Keef,

26/09/2008 13:46:13
#5 Funniest comment on here in a while. Fair cheered up my day :-)
15

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 15:10:04
Whats wrong with a little boat with an outboard motor rather than this cranky (!) idea.
16

Wullie Coyote,

26/09/2008 15:15:36
Given the cooncil's record on public transport projects, I fully expect to win the contract with my inflatable pogo sticks proposal.
17

Brian M,

Edinburgh 26/09/2008 15:35:44
No real need for a bridge or a ferry. There is bog all across the river from Crammond other than woodland and some cr@ppy shoreline.

But if some entrepreneur wishes to start a ferry without public funding then he/she is most welcome to do so.
18

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

26/09/2008 16:16:37
Its dead in the water & will never get off the ground
19

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

26/09/2008 16:18:06
#17 - so they could take the ferry, which only proves the point that walkers are hippocrits
20

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

26/09/2008 16:22:17
has anyone floated the idea of a hovercraft ? the one that used to go between Fife & Portobello must be bobbing about somewhere just looking for a crossing to bridge
21

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 27/09/2008 00:57:43
Why not just build a drawbridge - that way Lord Rosebery can choose the times when he allows visitors to the area. At other times he can raise the bridge and have his privacy.
22

Ghost Of Scotland Past,

23/10/2008 22:42:21
25) & 26) well done, excellent lateral thinking there
the hovercraft could be placed across the Almond Estuary,
it wouldn't need to move people could just walk on one end and off the other, and it could be shut at night.
The drawbridge would be good too as it would give disabled access and could be shut as and when his lordship takes the h u m p.
Both however would hamper the progress of the yahoo henry
Saturday sailors up and down their little mud ditch, maybe no bad thing. It's a wind - wind situation

 

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