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Published Date:
21 November 2007
SCORPIONS inspire fear among many people, despite being small enough to fit on the palm of a hand.
But scientists have now discovered an ancestor of the insect that was once the planet's top predator, a "truly terrifying creature" living in the sea, nearly 12ft long from tail to claw and weighing in at roughly 28st.

An 18in fossilised claw - about 10in longer than the largest of its descendants alive today - was found in Germany. Scaling this up based on more complete remains suggests an animal with a body of up to 259cm (8ft 6in) with the fully extended front limbs adding a further metre (3ft 3in).

Fortunately, for everything else alive 390 million years ago and worth eating, its tail was not equipped with a sting, a later evolutionary development.

While humans may have ultimately had the last laugh, our contemporary ancestors, who were fish, were among its prey.

Dr Simon Braddy, of Bristol University's earth sciences department, said: "This is an amazing discovery. This animal would be truly terrifying creature.

"We have known for some time that the fossil record yields monster millipedes, super-sized scorpions, colossal cockroaches, and jumbo dragonflies, but we never realised, until now, just how big some of these ancient creepy-crawlies were.

"This new evidence suggests their bodies were two-and-a-half metres long. It is possible that somewhere out there, there's an even larger arthropod, maybe up to three metres."

The sea scorpion was at the top of the food chain during its time and would have made a fearsome predator.

"If you were swimming around in a river or the sea and one of these things attacked you, you wouldn't stand a chance," Dr Braddy said.

"I'd rather be in the sea with a 6ft shark than a 6ft sea scorpion. These claws would rip you to pieces."

While this may not be a danger for humans today, it certainly was for the creatures whose descendants went on to make the long journey on to land, into the trees and then out of them.

"At this stage of our own evolution we're still these lobed, finned fish and the sea scorpions would have been eating our own ancestors," said Dr Braddy, who co-authored a paper in the Royal Society's Biology Letters, published today.

"It would also eat other creepy-crawlies including its own kind. There is some evidence they were cannibals."

The scorpion had an armoured exoskeleton, jointed body, a pair of large "paddles", eight walking legs, and two front limbs with the serrated claws.

The fossil claw was discovered in a quarry near Prum in Germany in an area that would have been a swampy delta, where a river entered the sea.

"These really big ones [scorpions] are interesting, you find them in the sea, in rivers and in lakes," Dr Braddy said.

"That implies they were able to swim around between these environments and weren't restricted by freshwater or saltwater."

Markus Poschmann, a colleague of Dr Braddy who works in Germany, described the moment he found the fossil.

"I was loosening pieces of rock with a hammer and chisel when I suddenly realised there was a dark patch of organic matter on a freshly removed slab," he said.

"After some cleaning I could identify this as a small part of a large claw. Although I did not know if it was more complete or not, I decided to try and get it out. The pieces had to be cleaned separately, dried, and then glued back together. It was then put into a white plaster jacket to stabilise it."

Dr Braddy was having a cup of coffee at his computer when he was sent a picture of the claw.

"I was completely amazed the first time I saw it. I almost dropped my coffee. I couldn't believe it was this large, it was very exciting," he said.

ANCIENT MONSTERS

• About 110 million years ago, crocodiles the size of a bus stalked small dinosaurs and fish in the seas. Sarcosuchus imperator or "SuperCroc" was about 40ft long with 6ft jaws and weighed up to 10 tonnes.

• Australia was home to 10ft tall kangaroos until relatively recently. It is thought they were wiped out about 40,000 years ago by humans, although climate change may have played a part. The continent was also home to a wombat-like creature the size of a rhinoceros.

• Megalodon, at 52ft long, was the biggest carnivorous fish the world has ever seen. It is thought to lived between two million and 20 million years ago.

• Fossils of a penguin that stood 5ft tall have been discovered in modern-day Peru. It lived about 36 million years ago and possessed a long "spear-like" beak.

• Tracks of a millipede that was about 6.5ft long were discovered in rock on the island of Arran. Fossilised remains of the creature itself, called Arthropleura, were also discovered in Canada. It walked the earth about 300 million years ago.

• Today's dragonflies are shadows of their prehistoric selves. Meganeura monyi, with a wingspan of 2.5ft, is the world's largest known flying insect. It lived 300 million years ago.

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1

Scullion,

Canada 21/11/2007 02:08:19

This is nothing. 25 years ago I had the world's biggest spending girlfriend-she had nails that would rip open your wallet and leave you gutted. No man with a fiver had a chance.

2

scottishsponger,

Under the sea 21/11/2007 03:12:47

I wonder what the anti-Darwin religious lunatics will say to this? No doubt they'll claim "god" created the world 2000 years ago, in 7 days, for humans and nothing existed before this. I'm sure we'll get some of them posting their brainless fiction on this board later on. WAKE UP! Ironically, evolution will claim the weak minded religious zealots in the end!

3

49th State,

In the office, smelling wife's pumpkin pie baking 21/11/2007 03:36:56

#2

It's the meak who shall inherit the Earth. This is just another piece of prehistoric evidence, of the unwritten past, interpreted to fit the puzzle of a certain God hating mind set.

Besides, the thing looks like a crab to me. I've caught plenty - and I've had the hell stung out of me by a scorpian before. Scorpians have a tail.

OK, so where are the millions of transitional forms detailing how this "proto-scorpian" evolved? There is nothing to present mankind with but an artist's impression of fairy tale science.

4

Boy Wonder,

21/11/2007 06:31:00

This is nothing new. We know that insects once ruled the planet before the coming of the Saurians. And to grow to the sizes they were, the planets was hotter due to the different chemical composition of the biosphere, ie, atmosphere, seas and lakes and rampant vulcanism.

It was all one landmass back then too ... Pangaea. Present theories are that the vulcanism and a shift in the Earth's axis broke that land into two, Laurasia and Gondwanaland, then broke up further as the Earth evolved introducing continental drift (plate tectonics).

Ancient life-forms were all about giantism, back then. The planet may have gone through a Venus-like stage because of the vulcanism and thick hot atmosphere. Hothouse Earth if you like. Our far ancestors also evolved from wierd creatures of the time, wired to deal with the extreme temperatures.

All we're doing now is discovering what lived back then. This "scorpion" is no surprise. Land insects like dragonflies were huge! The evidence has been known since Victorian times!

5

Proximaking,

Dundee 21/11/2007 06:49:24

If I had created the world three minutes ago you would never know it would you because I would have the sense to give you false memories, ..... or was it mamaries? The point is if mass is created from a conceptual flat electro-magnetic-spin sea as we go along in our orbit much as a bulge of water on a pond as the latest theories are showing that indeed it is then just what does the "top concept" make of us having a laugh at his expense? As Einstein was very fond of saying "To God we are all equally wise and equally foolish." Remember EMS patterns do change but time is not required to explain that only electro-magnetic-spin interactions and time is not even in the equations any more as it is a concept we keep in our heads to predict the EMS world patterns changing around us ....... the end of time? Only the ignorant scoff at what they don't understand and years ago when I was ignorant I could scoff with the best of them but I keep up to speed with Scientific developments and only an ignorant person would scoff now in an infinite conceptual multi-verse. If you believe in quantum computers, which rely on conceptual multi-verse ideas, perhaps it is time to revise the scoffing that up to now was as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, ....... the fish just flitted to another "reflection." I've always wonderd if size was not perhaps one of those things that is not to be believed in and again in a zero dimensional multi-verse that has only the appearance of dimensionality (think computer gaming) and the ideas of huge creatures from the past isn't as certain as it might seem. We were given brains to think, ..... not to slag other people off. Maybe you should look at your bath water as it goes down the hole next time if you don't believe in spin, or an electirc motor operating by spin shading or..... maybe one day a loaves and fishes thing, ..... but that would be ridiculous in a solid mass based world wouldn't it?

6

thinking,

Scotland 21/11/2007 09:49:19

#2
I am anti-Darwin but you have it wrong (as do most people)
The correct meaning of 'day' in the account of the creation is 'time period' the length of which is unknown at this time. Adam was created in the 6th timeperiod, after everything else.
By the way - did you know that a volcanic island was covered in vegitation within 100 years of it's emergance from the sea? I believe there was also wildlife that had travelled by air or sea

7

Partan,

I'm not sure now. 21/11/2007 09:57:36

Can I be first to say I agree totally with #5?

8

nick prince,

warrington 21/11/2007 11:26:42

I am standing shoulder to shoulder with 5 as well, a masterly and curtate primer on the genre, although he has neglected to discuss the implications deriving from the finite action solutions of the yang mills higgs equation in this flat spin sea and why no mention of the five dimensions of nowhere?

9

cheereequinee,

Malta 21/11/2007 11:44:16

Adam was made from dirt of the land. He did not crawl out from the under the water. Many have wondered.

10

Partan,

Fife 21/11/2007 13:25:32

#6
If someone believes in the story of the creation, and another is an evolutionist, surely splitting hairs about time periods would be irrelevant?
Are you suggesting that these creatures or dinosaurs existed in the periods before Adam, for example?
I don't get your point about the volcanic island.

11

AllanG,

West Monroe, LA, USA (via Canada and Glasgow) 21/11/2007 14:39:52

I have to laugh when anti-evolutionists bring up Darwin, as if evolution theory hasn't changed in about 150 years.

Yes, there are gaps in the transitional record. This isn't surprising, given that the conditions that cause fossils do not occur evenly. Fossils aren't formed just by layers of dirt falling on an animal's skeleton. Even when fossils are formed, upheaval can destroy the strata holding the fossils.

This having been said, the transitional record is more complete than most anti-evolutionists believe.

They also can't explain through creationism how, for the last 20 years, there have been on average about 100 scientific papers published about the _observed_ development of new species.

This is anti-evolution's dirty little secret. Scientists have observed the formation of new species, life forms which have developed from other species. Scientists have seen it in the lab and in the field. They've seen it in bacteria, insects, plants, and even in fish.

In other words, scientists have observed the mechanics of evolution.

12

truthsleuth,

South of the border 21/11/2007 15:32:42

1. Scullion,

Now in 1million years time scientists will find a nail (nothing else) from your girl friend.
By extrapolation (always a good statistical method for 'scientists') the 'scientist' will estimate your girl friend was 15 ft tall and this confirms the Amazonian Women did exist ater all.

13

Dave Otto,

Campbell River, BC, Canada 21/11/2007 16:04:02

As a friend of my succinctly stated. If you, (the Godless evolutionists) are right, and I am wrong, about a life after this one.....you won't even get to gloat. How sad for you.

14

Saoghal Beag,

21/11/2007 16:12:05

Insect, what insect???? On the ball scientific reporting from the scotsman again. It's a scorpion, it's got eight legs, not six, it's certainly no insect.

15

kranch,

the states...for now 21/11/2007 17:46:30

ye lads are great fun, #5 I stand wit ye, #1 I pity ye!

16

Kenneth,

21/11/2007 18:12:10

#5
Well finally someone has discovered what really happened. Now I have to adjust 6 billion odd memories and touch up a few artifacts. Dam Idam.

17

Mcsnagpile,

21/11/2007 18:48:15

My ambition is to be top of the food chain even if I have to be a scorpion.
With global warming I have a chance.
On the other hand I have Neg AB blood and descended from Adam and Eve. Other blood groups are descended from monkeys and lizards.
When the time is right god will transform all true human descendants to their rightful place as scorpions. The remainder will be food stock.

18

thinking,

Scotland 21/11/2007 19:18:17

#11
It doesn't take as long as many think to make land that is habitable

19

Saoghal Beag,

21/11/2007 20:36:57

#18 Mcsnagpile, what an interesting point you raise, i think that the best thing you can do is get out there and start mating with all go's creatures to create your own super race of devine beings......or am i too late ;))))

20

Catastrophe1113,

21/11/2007 20:39:41

Can I just point out #3 that the creature does have a tail, if you'd bother to look!

21

Mart on Skye,

21/11/2007 21:37:05

#2

"I wonder what the anti-Darwin religious lunatics will say to this? No doubt they'll claim "god" created the world 2000 years ago, in 7 days, for humans and nothing existed before this."

Actually no they won't.

They will say that God created it about 6k to 10k years ago in six days as God rested on the 7th.

And #6

You are mistaken about the meaning of a day.

The earliest manuscripts use the word for day that indicates 24 hours and also this is backed up by the textual use and context.

22

Harry Carnie,

British Columbia, Canada 22/11/2007 01:38:16

How ever we disagree on how the world/universe CAME INTO EXISTENCE............surely we can agree........

IT IS TRULY WONDERFUL!


 

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