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Published Date: 09 March 2008
US PRESIDENT George Bush has vetoed legislation that would have banned the CIA from using harsh interrogation methods to break suspected terrorists.
"The bill Congress sent me would take away one of the most valuable tools in the war on terror," Bush said in his weekly radio address yesterday. "So today I vetoed it."

The bill cleared the House of Representatives in December and the Senate la
st month.

"This is no time for Congress to abandon practices that have a proven track record of keeping America safe," the President said.

Supporters of the legislation say it would preserve the US's ability to collect critical intelligence while providing a much-needed boost to the country's moral standing abroad.

"Torture is a black mark against the US," said California Senator Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat. "We will not stop until (the ban] becomes law."

The bill would have limited the CIA to the 19 techniques allowed for use by military interrogators. The Army Field Manual in 2006 banned using methods such as waterboarding – forced suffocation and inhalation of water – or sensory deprivation on uncooperative prisoners.

But Bush said the CIA must retain use of these "specialised interrogation procedures".

"If we were to shut down this programme and restrict the CIA to methods in the field manual, we could lose vital information from senior al-Qaeda terrorists, and that could cost American lives," Bush said.

The bill's supporters say the military's approved methods are sufficient. Senator Edward Kennedy said: "Unless Congress overrides the veto, it will go down in history as a flagrant insult to the rule of law and a stain on the good name of America in the world's eyes."





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  • Last Updated: 08 March 2008 8:05 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: CIA 'torture flights'
 
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Maurice,

Fife 09/03/2008 01:22:40
Hitler would have been proud of you George
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steve's here,

09/03/2008 05:50:25
Maurice, you have said it all!!! a sad, sad day for the yanks.
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta 09/03/2008 06:29:29
Dudes ,
I have said it many times .

G W Bush is the greatest disaster to befall my country the USA in the last 100 years.

He is a war criminal, and with his VP Cheney , both should be tried for war crimes against the civilians they killed of IRAQ
GC
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09/03/2008 07:25:25
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 09/03/2008 07:26:15
George W. Bush: ?si???-i?u?.
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Siroos,

UK 09/03/2008 07:43:41
Appeasement never works. If you do not have the heart to watch, turn the other way.
Those who are too willing to destroy us should be dealt with severly. Kajoling the jihadists only weaken us. Remember 9/11 , London Tube bombing , Madrid bombing and many more?
We can not extend our democratic values to the brainwashed. It has backfired too many times.
History will judge Bush as a liberator.
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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 09/03/2008 08:23:04
And you lot put him in TWICE!!
God bless America and its fine education system.

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"We can not extend our democratic values to the brainwashed. It has backfired too many times."

So long as we murder and torture democratically then we are better than those who murder and torture undemocratically is that what you are saying here???

"History will judge Bush as a liberator."

Who has he liberated????


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donald,

glasgow 09/03/2008 08:30:53
And he maid Tory Bliar a peace envoy?
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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 09/03/2008 08:53:08
I wonder if Bush would be so keen on retaining these torture methods if he thought there was a chance they would be used on him to obtain a confession regarding the lies he told about WMDs in Iraq?
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yockel,

09/03/2008 09:37:21
#9 "maid Tony Bliar" I like that slip of the keyboard! Many a true word....
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Biker,

Ayr 09/03/2008 12:04:24
Siroos.
The one sure fire way of making anyone into a terrorist or fundimentalist is to kill his family and torture him. The information derived from torture is poor to useless so why do they bother? It keeps the lie afloat.
Bush, you and Cheynie ar a disgrace to manking and as GC alude, you should both be tried as war criminals.
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Polly Ann,

09/03/2008 13:45:54
#4 GC

See what eating those illegal Mushrooms does to your brain! They turn you into a mindless liberal. If your lies about them being war criminals were true they would be on trial.
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Siroos,

UK 09/03/2008 13:50:41
I expected this type of reception, and I got it.
An extract from Persian literature....
A Bird of prey got shot while in flight by an arrow. As it is falling to earth, it notices that, the shuttle of the arrow is made from his own feathers. The Bird says; this is only due to my " kind ". I my feathers were not so purpose built, the hunter could have used them against me.
TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT is your downfall.
I remember reading about the time that, the Kurdish refugees were going to the poles to vote for the FIRST time- freely - in this country. They were attacked physically. There were NO prosecutions.
You have chosen to forget the atrocities commited by Saddam against his own and his neighbours, because YOU are so politically correct. I do not forget the marches of the Peace activists in London at the time.
Yes, Bush & Co did take some short cuts. It was for your own long term good.
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Guga II,

Rockall 09/03/2008 14:25:16
Bush is only emphasising his role as a war criminal who, apart from starting an illegal war, is guilty of murder, kidnapping and torture.

He is dragging the American nation down into the mire with him. He needs to share the same fate as Saddamn Hussein.
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA........captured from Mexico 1845 09/03/2008 16:14:25
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Polly Ann,
09
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Dude,
Why are shrooms illegal, but cigarettes legal

The latter (cigarettes) cause the premature deaths of 300K, to 400,000 Americans every year.

Shrooms cause ZERO.

When Two men in this case the Pres and VP of the USA give the order to attack a sovereign state (IRAQ) which did not attack the USA .

And it resulted in the deaths on untold thousands of IRAQI civilians , including women and children and old people. I would say these two men qualify as war criminals.

In the case of the war, our evil G.W. Bush, has ignored all International Laws, and vetoed the banning of "water boarding" to torture prisoners of war.

Even though the US Congress has BANNED the use of water boarding as a method of torture. But BUSH vetoed the bill.

Chill out Dude and kick the nicotine habit.

HAPPY (Bush War Criminal Day)

BY the way this evil Dude Bush is going to the Olympics in CHINA. Where 1.3 billion of its citizens are not allow to vote their conscience.

GC
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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 09/03/2008 16:24:55
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Its ok for the US president to condone torture because Saddam Hussain was a B*stard to his own people is that what saying now??

GB and co didnt go into Iraq to save the Iraqis from a dictator his predecesors supported and armed. He went in because the Neocons saw a profit in the price of oil shooting up to new heights and the Jewish lobby gets to see one of their enemies taken out.
Not to mention the fact that it is now US companies who are contracted to run the oil fields.
So dont give us any more of this sh*t about deposing dictators. The US has supported many more dictators than it has deposed by a long way.
Some to the worst dictators on the Planet belong to the Saudi royal family and they have close personal and business links with GB and his administration.
And it was Saudis who attacked the twin towers not Saddam Hussain or the Taleban.

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britsout,

camelon 09/03/2008 16:35:35
two words to siroooooos ( no, not them ) JOHN PILGER
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britsout,

camlon 09/03/2008 16:42:41
# 22 foooooks she says , fowks he says . wee nicky gies 'im a smirk ,aye lord FOOOOOKS. she says. you can hear them laugh at the the milton street flats
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britsout,

camelon 09/03/2008 16:48:19
shrooooooms ,less deaths than nicotine, less mental illness than alchohol . its "pollys" logic that appears low, cloudy. give bush a chance
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Reckless,

911 was an inside job 09/03/2008 20:28:34
We're no better. Britain and Amerika are both officially police states.

USA PATRIOT ACT
Civil Contingencies Act 2004
Hitler's Enabling Act 1933

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bill2,

09/03/2008 20:36:37
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bill2

troll
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Siroos,

UK 09/03/2008 20:48:19
#-22, F Off the C,
Sorry to trouble YOU Sir, but since the invasion of Iraq, many freedoms have been granted for the Arabic people of the ME. Namely in Bahrain Women can now be elected as members of their Parliament.
There are changing attitudes- at a snails pace - in the region towards democratic values. Saddam's story has put the shivers down the spineless Monarchy in Saudi in particular. However, it takes time for a society to digest the true meaning of freedom.
Let us examine Iraq briefly; -
The Kurds in the North - deeply gratefull to the US &Co - are enjoying relative peace and will prosper.
The Sunnis in the middle, fallen from power are reminded that, power can be shared proportionally and they can prosper too.
Only the ungratefull Shi'ite dogs in the south of Iraq have taken up arms against their liberators. This in turn is due to the constant meddling of the Mullahs regime next door which is petrified of the changes taking shape around its borders.
The broader picture in my opinion is that, it took a man with big mellons - in his pants - to take the first step and rid the region from a tyrant. It will take many many years for the US to recoup their expenses. They have lost over 3000 men to IED's alone, while the most other allies were enjoying the sunshine in other parts of Iraq.
You have read too many conspiracy theories put forward by the jihadist sympathisers.
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57Nomad,

09/03/2008 21:39:03
#28 reckless

reckless said:

"We're no better. Britain and Amerika are both officially police states.
USA PATRIOT ACT"

For a number of years now the "Patriot Act" has been cried over and over as a showcase of the abolition of civil liberties in American. But the cries like Reckless's, "USA PATRIOT ACT" (note the BOLD TYPE AS IF THAT HAD ANYTHING WITH ANYTHING) are the silliest.

Mr. Reckless, will you please live up to your name, take a walk on the wild side and cite the exact section of the Patriots Act that you find objectionable. Attempts to evade the issue with "how can you be so dumb, EVERYBODY knows the Patriot act is fascist," will do you no good. So, since you saw fit to say that the Patriot Act makes the US a police state perhaps you would be so kind as to cite one single section of the Patriot Act to support your claim.
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta, CA....captured from Mexico 1845 09/03/2008 22:11:42
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Hey Dude,
I dislike making jabs at others , but in Ur case, U are sounding like an Old fa*t with too much time on Ur hands, and believe, U are, an all knowing source of wisdom.

Me thinks U cut and paste a lot, and U can fool most of the idiots who post on this thread most of the time, but U don't fool me Dude.

I live up the road from U in Murrieta, its 77°F here right now (25°C) and sunny.
But in Scotland its cold with gale fore winds blowing, and no sunshine.

So why don't U chill Dude and appreciate the great climate U and I live in.

Climate has nothing to do with politics Dude.
But being a Republican is no better that being an ARAB,
At least as a liberal WE can THINK things out.

GC
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Globetrotter_scot,

09/03/2008 22:34:16
32. Nomad.
Could be that the BOLD TYPE in USA PATRIOT is because the word is actually an acronym that stands for:

"Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001"

Crazy.
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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 09/03/2008 22:35:09
31

You are making all of this up as you go along.

"Sorry to trouble YOU Sir, but since the invasion of Iraq, many freedoms have been granted for the Arabic people of the ME. Namely in Bahrain Women can now be elected as members of their Parliament."

What on earth is the connection between this and the invasion or Iraq??? you must be the only person on the planet that can see it.

"There are changing attitudes- at a snails pace - in the region towards democratic values. Saddam's story has put the shivers down the spineless Monarchy in Saudi in particular. However, it takes time for a society to digest the true meaning of freedom."

The Saudi family are laughing their socks off at the massive hike in oil prices due to the Iraq war.
I bet they supported this venture since before day one. They were probably consulted in the pre invasion scenarios in order to invest their wealth into appropriate commodities.

The Kurds are now being taken apart by the Turks and the US does nothing because Turkey is a NATO ally.

The broader picture is you are living in your own wee la la fantasy land hopelessly out of touch with reality. Get a grip of yourself.


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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 09/03/2008 22:38:53
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Well maybe you can explain which part of the patriot act actually protects the US from terrorist bombs????
Or which part of the patriot act protects the people of the US from an unsympathetic non democratic US government??? even if you dont believe you have one now it could still occur in the future and your constitution is supposed to protect you from this but of course its your constitution which is eroded by the patriot act or havent you noticed???
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Siroos,

UK 09/03/2008 23:17:19
#- 35 ; Earth is ROUND. Please do not hang me. Read up on it or better still, find out for yourself.
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britsout,

camelon 09/03/2008 23:26:54
torture comes easy to them . they hardly recognise humanity in their own. if you look at the vileness of their penal system , you can just imagine what they are willing to do to "others" . i pray i never fall into their evil hands
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57Nomad,

california 10/03/2008 04:26:09
#33 GC

I can't think of anything less interesting than another one of your cheesy, uninformed bits of psychoanalysis of another poster, a poster whose opinions and observations are not universally well received by the general readership on this forum. This interests absolutely no one. Nobody cares what you think about me. It doesn't interest me and I'm in it! Snooze City. Into the Arms of Morpheus. Hibernation.

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Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 10/03/2008 11:44:39
Hello All,

Well, well, well, you anti-US lot are wonderfully refreshing: the Mindless Horde offering similarly mindless drivel, out of sheer emotionally subjective idiocy!

To date, you highly IGNORANT and UNIFORMED Mindless Horde, only 3 people have been waterboarded: all have provided information that has saved lives, particularly those working and frequenting the Los Angeles Public Library.

Further, while you lot are all fine and dandy ignoring and/or pushing aside the REAL WORLD in favor of your fantasies and gross stupidities, the Jihadists are currently and ferverently plotting to murder non-Muslims.

In case that didn't gel in your mushy 'brains' that means YOU!

I don't expect you to take my word for it: just go to the Jihadist websites (including Jihadist supporter Al Jezeera) and read it for yourselves (such as Hamas and Hezbollah websites).

You won't of course: it's so much easier to remain willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest! Thus, you can retain your aire of superiority and 'righteous indignation.'

Hopefully right up to the point that you're lying in the debris caused by a Jihadist.

Yes indeed, the 'evil' Bush, Blair, and the rest of the West really don't 'understand' the 'poor plight' of Muslims.

You must mean the 48% of Brit Muslims whom want to replace Secular Law with Sharia Law, and forcibly convert ALL Brits to Islam.

Remember to buy a copy of the Noble Qur'an as soon as possible, all the while clicking your heels together and repeating: "There's no place like Mecca. There's no place like Mecca. There's no place like Mecca."

If you get bored, you can always write the word 'divorce' on a piece of paper and get rid of your wife (burqha and all), and then seek out some 9 year old (as did the Prophet Muhammad) to wed.

Or you could just yell 'allahu akbar' and decapitate someone.

Cheers from the Rockies
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bill2,

10/03/2008 11:51:07
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bill2

Troll
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bill2,

10/03/2008 11:53:03
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Neanderthal75

Racist
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Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 10/03/2008 11:56:54
Hello Bill2,

My dear fellow, you're as ignorant as you are idiotic.

"Muslim" is NOT a 'race', it is a RELIGION.

There are black Muslims, white Muslims, Chinese Muslims, Japanese Muslims, African Muslims, Tartaric Muslims, et al.

Muslims come in all shades and colors, vastly differing nationalities and languages, cultures, etc.

So how about you pull your head out of your a s s and get with the program: read a book (even the Noble Qur'an, which I've studied for the last 6 plus years, have you?) and actually learn something, instead of spouting ignorant horse manure.

Cheers from the Rockies
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Siroos,

UK 10/03/2008 11:59:05
#- 42, Thanks. I guess this is what I tried to tell them too. This place is the real fantacy island. The London tube bombing did NOT wake them up.
A Nation of whiners who just take it laying down.
Is this the destiny of the shameless colonials?
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Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 10/03/2008 11:59:16
Hello Bill2,

Technically speaking, I should have noted that 'Muslim' is a FOLLOWER of a religion, ie, Islam.

I'm just well tired of a s s e s such as yourself, who cannot pull their heads out and actually learn accurately or think independently, from the Politically Correct websites which feeds their (your) willful ignorance, hatred, and bigotries.

Cheers from the Rockies
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bill2,

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Religionist.
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britsout,

camelon 10/03/2008 17:46:45
bill 2 w as right you ARE racist, i suspect youve never even seen a copy of the QRAN , unless they featured one on fox news
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Biker,

Ayr 10/03/2008 18:57:23
Foulks. You are the man. Well said
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Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 10/03/2008 21:42:51
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I see my comment at 54 was deleted as well I bet it was because I mentioned z*onists in it.
I have seen some really seriously vile statements made on these threads showing sick predudice and libel comments about Islam and none have been deleted ever. If you go back on past copies you can still read them. I am starting to suspect some kind of z*onist censorship in the worlds press.
Didnt we just have a couple of stories recently regarding cartoon lampooning of Mohammed? I wonder how long a cartoon depicting Jews with big noses would last? The censorship on this paper is certainly one sided you can see this also in the threads with stories on Scottish independence.

Siroos I will put money on that it was you who complained to the censor you little mag*ot.
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britsout,

camelon 11/03/2008 00:37:14
for the past forty years sirooos i have found the ideology of zionism so incredibly repellant that ihave never wasted a chance to expose it for the crime against humanity it most assuredly is . i find the apologists of that ideology lacking in all the human decencies . foulkes is right about you
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Siroos,

UK 11/03/2008 00:58:12
# - 62, Yes OK, If YOU say so. How do YOU feel about JAHADISTS then?
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Imelda,

11/03/2008 02:58:48
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bill2

Lol, you are just making up your own version of story and exaggerated! When I was on that thread last night, I read to 210 posts. There were equally as many as pro-Israeli and ant-Israeli posters. No such thing as what you posted = “because to many were against Israel and they do not like that.”. The closure for comment on this thread could be due to some posters trolling and antagonize to incite hatred there. I wonder how many posts were there before it close.
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Let's have the truth,

11/03/2008 08:32:47
#17 Polly Ann

"If your lies about them being war criminals were true they would be on trial".

....Where?
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maeday,

smalltown, usa 11/03/2008 10:45:13
50 jacobite

brilliant! and accurate...
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maeday,

smalltown, usa 11/03/2008 11:29:56
48 moreen

if i may? you couldn't be more wrong about the real 'bill2', and i don't believe the one posting here is. i have recently visited "his freinds new alternative site.", and find no trolls there! granted it doesn't have the amount of posters as this site has but if you take all the trolls away, what's left? i also found many supporting both sites, why not?
if it is the different view than his, then debate him.
just a little input from an outsider, observing and commenting; getting his feet wet.


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britsout,

camelon 11/03/2008 13:19:10
siroooooos my enemies enemy is my friend
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maeday,

smalltown, usa 11/03/2008 14:35:37
68 nsp

who are you that you must troll anothers name? are you ashamed of who you really are? come out from the 'heat' and be a decent human being....you must sit and wait for me to post...do you have nothing in your little life to entertain you?
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bill2,

11/03/2008 15:01:41
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Imelda

59 is not me, neither are 27,29,41,52 and 53.

They are all trolls, posting with the knowledge of the Scotsman, which allows this sort of thing to go on.
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Ben More,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 18:19:10
Bill2,
I found your comments re Sir Connery in this thread:

http://news.scotsman.com/world/Whisky-haggis-and-shortbread-take.3857592.jp#2574270

(e.g. "Connery is sooo hot, he makes my legs weak."

to be in shockingly poor taste. Sir, this forum is for debate, espousal of hatred for the West (particularly the US and Israel) and the levying of accusations of censorship and zionist conspiracy, NOT for the airing of fetid sexual fantasies involving yourself and a great Scotsman.

I am disappointed in you and cannot take you seriously any more. Please work your issues out and reflect on the purpose of this site before posting further.

Sad Regards,

Ben More
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bill2,

11/03/2008 19:42:44
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Ben More

I am glad you disagree with my troll, who is using my name.

You will be aware from my #71 that #53 is not from me.

PS Are you Ben More, or his troll?
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Ben More,

Edinburgh 11/03/2008 21:47:26
Bill2 et al

Sir, I don't know who you are and I simply cannot trust you. I also do not have time to compare postings and deduce the 'real' bill2. As far as I'm concerned, you are either
a) a paranoid who fears that the Scotsman's commenter database--that veritable treasure chest of valuable electronic information--has been hacked
b) a delusional who, believing "a" feels that his identity was the primary target for hackers
c) an un-medicated mental patient with access to a computer--kind of like "britsout" except that while he's clearly brain damaged, you are schizophrenic
d) a sexual predator with designs on Sir Sean and the perverse need to disclose said designs in public, to the offense of other posters, and then cover up his trail with accusations of impersonation.

In answer to your question--though I doubt you'll understand the concept--I don't have another "me". It's just this guy, Ben More, typing away in silence at the other end of the modem. Perhaps someday 'another' Ben More will appear if a capable hacker infiltrates the electronic vaults of the Scotsman, if I become mentally disturbed and lose control over my actions, or, alternatively, if some other poster decides to try and create an ID of that name for vindictive reasons. In this event I will do as I suggest you do: evaluate how important it is to comment on a "debate" forum where factions of people have at each other and very rarely end up debating the issues at hand (or any forum, for that matter, that would allow a mental midget like "britsout" to comment), and take a break. Go for a walk, Bill, hang out with your family, see a mental health specialist, curse the Zionist Entity, send George Galloway love sonnets etc--basically take some time for you.

Please spare us the "it's not me, it's a troll" finger pointing and whinging routine, though. And keep your sexual fantasies to yourself.

Cheers and best wishes for a speedy recovery,

The One And Only Ben More
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britsout,

camelon 11/03/2008 23:53:26
rage benny , rage against these ninnies . your rightness escapes them . they cannot recognise how feeble they are in your sight . i say this as someone who has been vanquished by your peerless wit and deep insight so many times you must be tired giving pooor britfreee so many thrashings , yawwwn.....mnnnn these sheets are a bit moist , oh no ,not again
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britsout,

camelon 11/03/2008 23:56:03
benny ? do you wash your own sheets ? no , not your mum
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Mine's an 80 bob,

12/03/2008 00:03:08
Bill, I asked you to stop posting here!
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Siroos,

UK 12/03/2008 02:11:51
#- 69 Brits Out!! If for a moment you think a jihadi can be your friend, then openly I must tell you that, you suffer from an accute form of dillusions.
A Jihadist will use you, and then come after YOU.
You'd better choose your bed more carefully.
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britsout,

camelon 12/03/2008 02:41:20
all anti zionists are fighting a fight i wish to see fought . some i would invite for supper others not . some are fragrant ,others not. it does not really matter as long as they remain steadfast. im the enemy of THEIR enemy
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Imelda,

12/03/2008 03:36:50
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????????

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Imelda,

12/03/2008 03:40:02
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brainless

What kind of language is this >> "some are fragrant ,others not"? Did you mean fragile? How could you describe fighters and terrorists as fragrant? It doesn't make any sense! Where are you from? Probably an immigrant from non-English speaking country.
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bill2,

12/03/2008 07:53:47
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Your quote in #64 from the other thread “because to many were against Israel and they do not like that.”, was not me. That was a troll using my exact ID.
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bill2,

12/03/2008 11:52:15
75 Ben More

I join you in the condemnation of my troll.

The One And Only bill2.
90

britsout,

camelon 12/03/2008 13:17:03
thats right, you cant understand the use of the word fragrant and that makes britfree non scots. i suspect i would have to hold my nose if i conversed with imelda for any length of time , why do you wish to speculate on britfrees origins . (dundee) . i couldnt care less which stone any of you crawled out from .
91

britsout,

camelon 12/03/2008 17:08:48
if another benni more "appears" will he have even a modicum of sense? it would be an improvement on this one .
92

Ben More,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 18:17:49
At 83, you, britsout/free/? said:

"i say this as someone who has been vanquished by your peerless wit and deep insight so many times you must be tired giving pooor britfreee so many thrashings"

to this I reply:

"Truer words were never spoken - Ah, but true words leave hearts broken! Truth is only for the wise - Lovers ought to stick to lies”

Cheers for so candidly admitting defeat. You still are obviously quite thick but at least you appear to have a degree of self-awareness. Good for you. Here endeth the lesson, pal.

92 bill2: troll
93

bill2,

12/03/2008 19:41:19
95
Ben More

"92 bill2: troll"

Not a troll.
94

Hemingway,

12/03/2008 22:03:15
91 bill2

No one can use an exact ID you fool, you have to add something to your name like a !@#$%^<>:"12345 after or before your name.

I'm sure I'm not the only one growing tired of your lies.
95

bill2,

12/03/2008 23:36:29
97
Hemingway

"No one can use an exact ID you fool,"

Yes they can and they do. 79 and 81 were not me, they were my troll.
96

britsout,

camelon 13/03/2008 00:41:46
.benny taking the thingy out of you , its too easy you post stuff like 95 . it kinda implies you were too thick to notice . now , im sure that wasnt the case . you got the smarts, right benni ?
97

Imelda,

13/03/2008 06:31:01
91
bill2

Really? You being bill2 and troll bill2 is one person.
98

Imelda,

13/03/2008 06:32:40
93
brainless

I see, you haven’t improved much. You better take some English lessons, Joker. Most of the times, it seems you are talking and murmuring to yourself. You can’t be taken seriously at all. Ben More was right.
99

bill2,

13/03/2008 09:07:41
100
Imelda

No, two.
100

bill2,

13/03/2008 09:07:58
at least

 

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