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Published Date: 12 May 2009
AND the word of the Lord came unto me in a (tele) vision. Churchgoers in Scotland may soon be turning up at services to watch a minister deliver a service by video link.
The Church of Scotland is to consider setting up virtual ministries as one solution to a chronic lack of ministers. One post in every six is now empty.

A pilot scheme on the Orkney islands of Shapinsay, Flotta, Hoy and Rousay will connect churches on the four islands by a high-speed video link which will allow the congregations to share sermons, Bible readings and even sing hymns together.

If the trial is successful, the scheme may be adopted in other areas, particularly in rural areas where it can be hard to recruit new ministers.

Neither Flotta nor Hoy has had a minister for nine years, while Shapinsay previously shared a minister who has now retired.

The virtual island ministry is just one of the ideas being presented to the Church of Scotland General Assembly which opens in Edinburgh later this month.

If the Kirk approves the Orkney pilot, it will see giant screens being erected in churches and connected by a link which will even allow worshippers to join a service with parishioners on other islands.

The Reverend Trevor Hunt, presbytery clerk of Orkney, said: "We don't want congregations just sitting there watching television as if it was Songs of Praise so we want to make it interactive. Somebody might do a Bible reading, somebody else might lead the prayer."

Because of travel difficulties, the main residence for the minister serving all four islands would probably be on Orkney Mainland.

Members of each congregation would be trained to co-ordinate the services when the minister was elsewhere.

Jan Gordon, manager of the Mustard Seed Christian Bookshop in Kirkwall, said the virtual ministry could be a godsend: "Customers from the islands say they feel very cut off. With the weather up here, even if a minister is due, sometimes the boat doesn't come and you are left feeling very high and dry."

Fiona Cowan, of the inter- denominational Love Orkney group, which aims to hold prayer meetings on all 21 islands, said that the islanders were already well used to video conferencing technology.

"It isn't just pie in the sky. People here have video conferencing appointments with doctors and you can even use it to talk to your relatives at hospital in Aberdeen – they wheel a computer to the side of the bed."

But she said it would be hard to synchronise services completely and "it might work for sermons but not for worship".

The Orkney parishes are currently applying for £100,000 to set up the pilot scheme, which will use a superfast microwave link to connect the screens.

Ministries Council secretary Martin Scott said: "The idea is to connect very small parishes which are hard to get to. It would mean there would always be a service on every week without a minister having to rush between islands."

A spokesman for the Church of Scotland said the kirk was considering a range of different ideas to tackle the problems of vacant ministries.

The Church of Scotland now has 190 vacancies from 1,200 posts across Scotland. Around one in six ministries is vacant and, in Caithness, three out of 11 ministries are currently without an incumbent.


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  • Last Updated: 11 May 2009 11:46 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Church of Scotland
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 12/05/2009 00:50:30

This was done 16years ago here in Edinburgh, by guess who?

His initials are C.L

Yes your Charles is a 'Whizz Kidd'!

:))

2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 12/05/2009 00:51:44


Not just a 'pretty-face' you know!

:))
3

Gramma Kitty,

Portage Lakes, Ohio USA 12/05/2009 06:14:49
Can we please send our ministers? We have WAY too many here.
4

Ichabod,

12/05/2009 06:45:20
Would it not be better if the kirk just tuned into God first?
5

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12/05/2009 07:34:45
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Jim A,

12/05/2009 07:42:52
For me the sooner religion dies the better, biggest mistake mankind ever made was finding religion.
7

Dr Drikus van Panzerfest, Saffer Shrink,

12/05/2009 07:53:00
Yes that's right no.6!

Bigger than communism.

Bigger than Nazism.

Bigger than consumerism.

Bigger than solipsism.

Bigger than corporatism.

Bigger than allowing a moron like you access to the web.
8

Boy Wonder,

12/05/2009 07:53:44
There is a good reason one post in six is empty. People are less superstitious now. We don't need the crutch of religion!

People need to believe in themselves and their abilities ... not some made-up stuff by old men who wanted power over their tribes thousands of years ago!

Besides how can you have faith in ome supernatural entity if you can't have faith in yourself!

The sooner Religion is dead, the better off we'll all start to be.

And 95 yr old senile dementia patient, Chuckles Linskaill is off his meds again ... but you spotted that, didn't you?
9

sam the god,

12/05/2009 08:05:18
aye right i will be doing that
10

Selgovae,

Scottish Borders 12/05/2009 08:06:46
# 5 "collapsing under the weight of liberalism"

Are you sure you're trying to follow the right religion?

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "

11

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 12/05/2009 08:21:44
"There is a good reason one post in six is empty. People are less superstitious now. We don't need the crutch of religion!"

Possibly you don't BW, but many others do. Respect is a two way street therefore respect the wishes of those that want to believe in the Spook and your respet will be returned. Nobody is forcing you to attend church, so don't force those that do NOT to attend church.
12

ColinM,

Edinburgh 12/05/2009 08:35:25
Number 6 - how right you are

Let's banish religion totally!!

Then we can concentrate on the message of Jesus - who was opposed to, and wholly opposed by, the 'religious' of that time.

And he would certainly agree with the poster no 5, WeeBerty!

13

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 12/05/2009 08:57:11
in last nights EEN there was a report about a brothel,next door to the assemblyso as the headlines stated
"Sex for sale just yards from Church Assembly" yet us mere mortal scruffs were not aloud to state,any comments
its like what the big yin said "ask a prostitute in edinburgh,when is it christmas?,and she will tell you when the assembly is in its yearly session"
now i thought that was a joke,seems truth is stranger than fiction lol
14

Sedov,

12/05/2009 09:33:09
Lets get one thing straight, there is no such thing as God for any religion. Surely the advance of science has proved that fact without doubt.

You can be a good person without being religious.

However, I am prepared to believe in God if anyone can prove that God is real...
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Mark Insch,

12/05/2009 09:35:30
Religion is a bit like communism - if it was done properly as it was initially devised it would probasbly work well. Unfortunately, the human animal is naturally greedy and egocentric and those traits will ultimately spoil any "Utopia".
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AJ Fife,

12/05/2009 09:40:50
Whatever next - I thought 'bible thumpers' rejected modern technology as instruments of the Devil.

Even television, microwave ovens and electric toasters have long been considered as being the work of Satan by the average godbotherer!
17

Tarchin,

Lothian 12/05/2009 10:14:16
#14
Many years ago there was a well known brothel in Edinburgh's Danube Street run by a Mrs Dora Noyce. She was quoted in the EEN as saying that her busiest time was during the General Assembley.
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im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 12/05/2009 10:27:02
#18 yes i remember ,she was always getting raided,by the police
i think magistrates knew when she had a bit gathered in ,and fined her what the polis found lying about
even now that street has not fully recovered from all the sin and vice lol
if i remember right,didnt mr darling have a home in that street a few years ago?
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im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 12/05/2009 10:30:14
#17 do you mean the "wee free,s" with their holier than thou attitude
"thou shall not drink"!,oh yes we will
"thou shall not fornicate"! oh yes we will
"thou will not work on a sabbath"! oh we have to as this gov screwed up our pensions,and we are all feeling the pinch
yet biggest booozers and fornicators are those who say thou shant,but oh we will lol
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Iain Mac,

12/05/2009 12:44:28
The church can't get ministers and congregations are falling because finally people are realising that like those ministers, god really isn't there.

And, yes, why do we in the year 2009 need this 'crutch'?

Most 'Christians' have probably never read the bible and if they have they certainly don't live by it's 'teachings'. How could we? Apart from some basic common sense - 'the good bits' - it's full of ancient predjudice and outdated views of the earth.
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Iain Mac,

12/05/2009 12:48:10
The main question is, not people's freedom to worship in their own homes and churches, but why do these churches think governments should pay heed to them? Why should their discredited and fantastic views be taught to kids as 'the truth'?

Should governments also give equal credence to moonies, pagans and hari-krishnas? Funny how many Christians become a bit 'atheist' in their views towards other faiths?!
22

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12/05/2009 12:58:44
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Calum Crubag,

12/05/2009 15:20:53
Hey Vincent, i think that comment was dealt with already! If we teach Christianity as the only world view, why not every other delusion as well??
24

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12/05/2009 16:10:03
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CANUCK,

12/05/2009 16:35:38
Unfortunatly the 'Kirk" preaches very much from the Old Testiment ( ..the "thou shall not" doctrine)instead of Working on the New Testement and the perfection of Love as laid out by Christ. Most Kirk ministers would not know where or how to start teaching such ideals,especially in todays very complex society
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Media at One,

12/05/2009 19:07:47
What is the point of a churh and why do the believers trust in them?
Take the RCC for instance, their business is god and jesus. The RCC exist on the basis that a god exists, but what would happen if this god was actually hands on? You know, a caring god, a god who will talk to you, show himself to you, a swell god. How would that impact on the RCC? Would the church and the god entity be compatable? Probably not, one would need to go!
Remember what happened to the last person who claimed to be of god? Look what the church did to him.
27

Alba Abú,

12/05/2009 21:12:37
#27 Media 1
This article is not about the RC church.However,you seem to bring the RC church into every article.Is it just to satisfy your sectarian hatred of that church,or are you just pure stupid?
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12/05/2009 22:43:52
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The Pict.,

Canada / Edinburgh 13/05/2009 04:23:21
The sooner we get rid of all religion the better. No doubt this igod is the Jewish/protestant or Jewish Catholic god that's about to be rammed down some poor fool's throat. There should be a disclaimer on these Jewish fairytales. What utter rubbish they are.
# 11 Dave from Barra. do you know where your Jewish P o C religions came from ? If you are a Scot at least follow our fairytale god calle Bel.
slainte mhath.
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Pastor Bill Blair,

Guelph, Ont. Canada 13/05/2009 13:13:38
It is sad to see the decline of the church in Scotland, but I can see why it has happened by the amount of comments regarding this article, the majority are towards the man and organized religion, when we get our eyes of Jesus and onto men then we see the decline. as far as proving there is a God I can only prove it in my own life for what He has done for me, He said to "Thomas blessed are you because you have seen and believe, but more blessed are they that have not seen and believe" that is me and many others if only they be strong and stand up and be counted things would be different.
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McGinty,

Glasgow & Aberdeen 15/05/2009 15:24:03
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone so religious bashers and bashers of religion - gie's a brek.

 

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