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Published Date:
03 August 2007
NEW cancer services and local casualty units are under threat because of the Scottish Executive's decision to retain A&E services, it was revealed yesterday.
In June, Nicola Sturgeon, the health secretary, announced the reversal of plans to close A&E units in Ayr Hospital and Monklands in Airdrie. She ordered the health boards to rethink their proposed changes.

However, it has now emerged NHS Ayrshire
and Arran believes some plans for specialist cancer services and several community casualty units will not be viable if it retains the A&E at Ayr.

But Ms Sturgeon, whose party, the SNP, pledged to overturn the A&E closure during its election campaign, rejected claims that her decision would see other services suffer.

Under planned reforms of services, a specialist cancer centre had been suggested by NHS Ayrshire and Arran.

In a letter to Cathy Jamieson, Labour MSP for Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley, the board said this was now in doubt. Professor William Stevely, the chairman of NHS Ayrshire and Arran, said: "The continued viability of a single specialist cancer care unit at Ayr Hospital is contingent on the model of care selected by the [health] secretary."

The board had also planned community casualty units at Girvan, Cumnock and Irvine, but they, too are on hold until new plans are scrutinised independently and approved by Ms Sturgeon.

There are also concerns about what services may be sacrificed in Lanarkshire in order to retain the Monklands A&E. This includes doubt over a revamp of Airdrie Health Centre.

Ms Sturgeon said she had made it clear to boards that they should keep most, if not all, of their vital community services.

She added: "I see no reason why that can't be achieved and, when the final proposals come to me for approval, I'll be looking very closely at them to make sure that the interests of patients are protected."

Ms Jamieson said she was "deeply disappointed" about the decision to halt work on planned new services in Ayrshire.

"The health secretary should immediately guarantee that these vital services will not be cut," she said.

Andy Kerr, Labour's health spokesman who had approved the plans to close the A&Es when he was health minister in the previous parliament, said the SNP's decision went against evidence of the best way to provide modern health services.

He added: "We are now beginning to see the real impact on local communities, with planning for much-needed services plunged into chaos."



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1

mr angry,

ayrshire 03/08/2007 08:15:44

Be interesting to see what the health board come up with once they get out of their huff, and also to see if they get their plans approved if they throw their toys out of the pram and cancel lots of things just to get back at executive.

2

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 08:22:04

#3 They are not "getting back at the Executive". It was totally and completely obvious to anyone observing the politicking and populism of Ms Sturgeon's announcements that there had to be a knock on effect of this nature when she started interfering from the centre.

I have been saying this since her announcement, and have no doubt I will be proved right - you cannot seagull manage a development plan of this complexity and magnitude without causing major problems. Of course other services will suffer if rationalisations in the best interests of the majority are refused on political grounds. This issue is one of the fundamental mistakes of the first days of the SNP exec. Populism breeds problems.

3

MLS,

Glasgow 03/08/2007 08:29:31

Exactly - where are all the nationalists ? not so nice when you realise the truth about the snp is it? They are the nodding dog of political parties - saying yes to everyone and not thinking about the consequences...

4

Queen D,

Glasgow 03/08/2007 08:53:28

What rubbish!! The Health board have been given pots of dosh to continue some of the ideas in the Oxford Dons suggestions.
There is no reason why most of the projects can't continue.It is about time some of the massive admin blocks were history and let the medics get on with the job of treating people.
The Oxford prof is called Kerr.Just thought I'd mention that.
No.1 I think you meant 'wasters' in your comment,
or were you referring to the FMs waistline?

5

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 09:05:18

#6 The Health Board have been given no extra money to fund the retention of the A&E services which were to be rationalised. Unless you were involved in drawing up the original plan, I fail to see how you can now say what is and isn't possible in the face of government intervention.

6

Transparent?,

Scotland 03/08/2007 10:13:25

Nicola Sturgeon takes the biscuit on this on.

She demands that other people use their brains to produce a plan that she can stamp her name on and take any credit that may be due.

Why can't Ms Sturgeon plan the whole thing herself?

The answer to that question, I suspect, is cannabis!

7

S'me,

03/08/2007 10:26:29

Chickens coming home to roost.. so obvious when the SNP were listing populist choices as policy and not thought out intelligent decisions.. here we go.. Forth Rd bridge chaos coming soon.. etc etc..

8

Nick_Byrne,

Glasgow 03/08/2007 10:30:26

Really this is poor from the SNP crowd.

Not even showing face to defend Sturgeon.

It's simple Mathematics - if you have a set amount of money to spend and you are told you must spend it on one thing, you have less to spend on others.

Unless the SNP are going to spend more on the NHS (perhaps thats why they are crying out for borrowing powers) you cannot maintain the NHS provision as is - it's not feasible.

Greater Glasgow and Clyde already has £30million in debt - they are being asked to keep a host of small local hospitals open and their A&Es etc and yet they are being told to cut costs.

It's insane.

9

seeker of the truth,

at home... 03/08/2007 10:34:39

Unionist fuds are out in (what passes for) force today. 'Populist policies' as a term of abuse is something that puzzles me. Does it mean appealing to/ working for the wishes of the people? Yes is the answer. These neu-labour Boards - in their 'heartlands' don't ya know - should resign forthwith if they have any dificulties in implementing Government policy. Will that happen? No way; the gravy-train is still running in the 'heartlands. Bow to the will of the overwhelming majority of the people of Ayrshire and Lanarkshire, or be damned...

10

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 03/08/2007 11:13:04

The problem with the decision is not that it was popular, but because it was jumping onto a bandwagon that flew in the face of all the evidence. Why bother having a review if you are going to ignore its recommendations?

11

connaughtboy,

03/08/2007 11:23:21

This bears all the hallmarks of that nasty, rat-like little creature Cathy Jamieson. At least John Reid supports what Nicola Sturgeon has done.

12

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 11:42:49

#13 Lovely political argument that. "rat-like". Alex Salmond must be so proud of his rump.

13

G,

dundy 03/08/2007 11:50:20

Ms Sturgeon blow the cover last night on the radio - Head line news - the SNP have saved the A&E in Ayr - but when they start to count the beans they realise that means that the same amount of money has to cover more things - Ms Sturgeon basically told the Health Board they could have the cancer centre and the A&E but they would have to work out the financial details - what utter hypocrisy and probably typical of the future working of the SNP executive - make promises, trumpet success then leave the people on the ground to sort out the financial details...the SNP are showing their true colours - all spin and show and no idea about the details...
No doubt this will get blamed on NHS professsionals being anti-Scottish or pro-Labour, pro-Union - not the truth that the SNP made a decision to make a headline and now it is up to the professionals to sort out their mess.....

14

G,

dundy 03/08/2007 11:54:33

#11
What a lot of tosh!
SNP policies may be populist that does not mean that they are good for the population!
In this case they promised something then either forgot to examine the details or didn't care - rather than lose face and admit that they couldn't save the A&Es without something else getting binned, the SNP decided to do something which was good for the SNP but not necessarily good for Scotland. Which in my understanding could be defined as anti-Scottish......

15

Tapacooma,

Edinburgh 03/08/2007 12:38:11

Odd that I could not find this story in the Scotsman print edition.

16

King Doug,

Glasgow 03/08/2007 13:32:55

There's one simple reason why SNP supporters are not leaping to Ms Sturgeon's defence - there's nothing to defend, because this is a non-story. NHS Arran & Ayrshire are saying something MIGHT be the case, Nicola Sturgeon is saying she doubts it is - but naturally, the Scotsman leaps upon this and, knowing people fear cancer more than anything else, declares that cancer care is being put at risk as if it is a FACT - mass media propagandism at it's best. Do yourself a favour Labour Lovers - read Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman.

17

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 13:44:41

#18 You're right, it hasn't happened yet. But it will. This populist approach, a cynical ploy to win votes, will cost lives. At that point I hope everyone joins in the condemnation.

18

connaughtboy,

03/08/2007 14:00:05

#14 Duncan

Surely you agree with my description of CJ. Don't tell me that you actually approve of her!

19

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 14:04:37

#20 "Rat-like little creature" is something I wouldn't even say about Fergus Ewing. And that's saying something.

20

connaughtboy,

03/08/2007 14:12:28

This is all so transparent. Kerr and Jamieson have taken weeks to try to cook up a way of showing that saving the A&E departments was wrong. The best they can come up with is to drag up all the individuals who were either directly involved or have a vested interest in closing them.

If you don't believe me just ask John Reid, ex Home Secretary. He campaigned in support of the SNP policy:

"....John Reid, the home secretary, who backed protests against the loss of A&E services at Monklands hospital in his Airdrie and Shotts constituency"

Famously, he said at the time

"This is not organised. It's not the normal political or trade union demonstration. This is just ordinary, non-political people who know how much accident and emergency means to this area."

Can't really argue with his logic.

21

connaughtboy,

03/08/2007 14:13:47

#21 Duncan

I regret saying it now you have pointed it out to me.

It was unfair to rats everywhere!

22

G,

dundy 03/08/2007 14:25:07

The SNP apologists are out in force right enough - this matter was aired last night on Radio Scotland and Ms Sturgeon basically denied all responsibilty for the financial mismatch saying it was up to the NHS Health Boards how they cut their cloth

- this doesn't quite fit with the much trumpeted promise that the SNP would save the A&E departments....

IF no extra funding was to be made available then all the SNP have done is change NHS priorities - somehting they were quite happy to criticize the Labour executive for doing....

No doubt we can expect more of this - how will they pay for the promised reduction in class sizes???

Sack support teachers? Stop teaching certain subjects? Stop building new schools....?

23

connaughtboy,

03/08/2007 14:54:42

#24 G

Forget about the SNP apologists nonsense.

The SNP have delivered the correct strategy for the NHS (this is obvious to virtually everyone) by keeping open the A&E Units.

It makes me smile to hear the Unionists trying to defend the failed policies of the last Executive and the Government at Westminster. With all the money they have pumped into the NHS we should not be having to make these choices. The problem is, Labour have loaded up the NHS with targets and administrators and wasted gigantic amounts of our money in the process. what a bunch of complete incompetents.

While you are all moaning and sitting in your state of denial, we Nationalists and the local people using these services will fully back the SNP in their mission to heal the NHS.

24

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 15:16:09

#25 What you are opposing is not the policies of the previous Executive; it is the policies of the Health Boards themselves. These were strategic plans drawn up to maximise patient benefit, and they have been replaced with plans to maximise votes. It is the single most cynical thing the SNP have done so far, and of course the local people love it, because they aren't being told the truth.

Patients will suffer as a result of the forcing through of inefficient service delivery. Sturgeon's policy of "giving the people what they want" will enevitably run out of cash. What then? We make do and mend on the rest of the creaking NHS, rather than implementing the rounded plans of the Health Boards.

Populism kills.

25

S'me,

03/08/2007 15:17:40

Funny being called a Unionist Fud! You're so kind. I'm Scottish and proud, just get ashamed of a proportion of small minded nationalists. My point was..... whether you like it or not.. populism doesn't necessarily mean good decisions or good government.. its all too easy.. Get the cheers now and, as we are starting to see, when real decisions have to be made... they'll start to blame everyone else.. especially "Unionist Fuds!"

26

Geomac,

Scotland 03/08/2007 15:41:12

I came here looking for the Nat bunch - conspicuous by their absence, just like the SNP leadership - where's Wee Eck? Surely he's not one of these politicians who only associated himself/herself with good news and that he's not doing a Gordie Brown and disappearing when the going gets tough?
It was only a matter of time until the SNPs largess and ill thought out policies would come home to roost - this is only the start. Politics is about taking hard and often difficult decisions and not about trying to be all things to all men/women.
Typical SNP approach - fire, aim, steady!

27

Miss H,

03/08/2007 16:05:25

Sorry to disappoint you but nobody from the SNP is bothered about this.

It's just a bit of whinging sponsored by Jamieson and Kerr.

If planned cancer services actually end up being cut then you can come back and have a go at us all you won't.

But they won't.

28

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 17:32:04

#29 How will the magic happen then Miss H? How will the edict from Sturgeon be implemented without any cuts in other planned services? I'm not saying cancer services will go, and I note your careful singling out of them, but something has to. You can't add costs in one area without reclaiming them from another.

29

Biker,

Ayr 03/08/2007 17:49:20

This is all rubbish of the first degree, sadly including most of the above posts. In excess of 17,000 people signed a petition to retain the A+E at Ayr and were overuled by the Health Board., and Also excluded from the public enquiries. Ms Sturgeon only did what she said she would do, which was to re-enstate the department. I am no SNP supporter but agree this is a sensible decision.
To remove this department gives no cover between Stranraer and Crosshouse, and given the condition of the roads in the area could be fatal to many. This point was raised with the Health Board on many occasions but was litteraly laughed at.
The comments that many departments will suffer is also laughable as the health board were planning to move most or all to Crosshouse. If this is extrapolated could it be that the whole hospital would be closed and the land sold? Makes you wonder eh?
Personally the news that the A+E was staying open was a great relief to almost all of the residents of the area and myself.

30

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/08/2007 18:38:35

#31 Here's the thing. The residents of that locality were justified in campaigning for the A&E to remain open out of pure self interest. But the Health Board was charged with maximising effectiveness across all services and across all of their area. Their assessment, as is becoming common all over the world, was that more lives could be saved by centralising services and creating centres of excellence, than by keeping multiple centres open none of which would be of the highest standard. But it was the case that for some time-specific cases, the distance would make things worse. So some people in the locality would indeed be worse off.

Put bluntly, the hard facts were that centralising A&E could cost some people their lives; but would save more of others lives.

Unfortunately those sorts of decisions have to be made, and when they are made, the only rational approach is that which does the least harm and the most good. Centralising of services was calculated to be that choice, because it saved more lives. Reversing that decision may save some lives, but will cost more of others.

Nicola Sturgeon should have stayed out of what was a medical, not a political, decision.

31

Geomac,

Scotland 03/08/2007 20:41:11

So #31 biker - as an SNP supporter you would obviously want us all to decide locally by ballot or petition what we should have - regardless of the cost??
if that's SNP policy, then heaven help us. I agree with #32 - leave medicine to the doctors/specialists/nurses and leave education to the teachers. leave power generation to engineers and let's get politicians out of the detail. They do nothing but confuse and confound - not to mention buggering things up!!


 

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