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Published Date: 29 May 2009
SCOTLAND'S economy is set to decline throughout 2009 and into 2010, and could lag the rest of the UK in recovery from recession, it was claimed yesterday.
In a sombre assessment of prospects published today, Dr Andrew Goudie, the Scottish Government's chief economic adviser, says that while there are some signs of slowing rates of decline, business survey evidence for Scotland is mixed. A recent Purcha
sing Managers Index survey from Royal Bank of Scotland showed some recovery from January but the latest Scottish Chambers of Commerce Business Survey was still bleak.

Today's 54-page assessment is at marked odds with Chancellor Alistair Darling's budget prediction that the UK economy would be out of recession and starting to show growth by the end of the year.

Dr Goudie is understood to take a much more cautious view and to share the concerns of Bank of England governor Mervyn King that there is too much uncertainty to be confident of a turning point in 2009.

However, one hopeful sign is that the house price to earnings ratio in Scotland, which avoided the extreme peak for the UK as a whole, is now closer to a return to the historical norm of 3.5 times earnings. This would suggest that house prices here have less further to fall than the UK as a whole.

The downbeat report warns of future rises in unemployment and falls in output. The economy is set to closely track that of the UK with a fall in Gross Domestic Product of more than 4 per cent peak to trough.

Not only has a larger share of public spending in GDP failed to shield Scotland from the full blast of recession, but there is concern that a 1.7 per cent real terms cut in public spending taking effect from 2010-11 after a decade of powerful growth could result in a slower general economic recovery in Scotland compared with the UK.

The analysis is backlit by worries that while there are some signs of a slowing of the rate of decline, the economy in Scotland has not yet hit bottom.

A key reason for the cautious view is continuing uncertainty over the state of bank balance sheets and when the banks are likely to recover the ability and confidence to return to pre crisis lending levels.

The Scottish Government has undertaken a survey of financial conditions in the small and medium sized company sector, in particular recent experiences with banks, and the results are now being studied.

The view is there is still some way to go before the financial crisis is fully resolved and for that reason there is little cause for believing the economy will lift quickly off the bottom.

If businesses and households still see fragility in the financial sector, there is little likelihood the recession will end any time soon.

And there are too many unresolved questions to be confident of any rapid recovery.

According to the assessment, the Scottish economy has been in recession since mid-2008. Far from its large public sector providing some protection, figures for the third and fourth quarters of 2008 showed Scotland's GDP falling by fractionally more than the UK as a whole.

Figures for the first quarter of 2009 are likely to show the economy contracting very close to the 1.9 per cent fall experienced for the UK as a whole.

Women hardest hit as recession closes in

WOMEN seem to be bearing the brunt of the recession in Scotland, with a sharp increase in female unemployment.

According to findings by Scottish Government economic researchers, the employment rate for women in Scotland in the year to the first quarter of 2009 fell by 1.9 per cent. The equivalent figure for the UK as a whole was a decline of just 0.8 per cent.

Male employment in Scotland fell by 1.3 per cent over the same period, rather less than for the UK overall (down 1.7 per cent).

The notable fall in female employment has been disguised by a relatively small rise in the number of women recorded as unemployed. This is because many women have chosen to leave the labour market altogether and not 'sign on' for another job.

The unemployment rate for women in Scotland rose by just 0.8 per cent in the year to the first quarter, compared with a rise of 1.3 per cent for the UK as a whole.

This gave the impression that women were being less adversely affected than men. Male unemployment during the sale period was up by 1.7 per cent in Scotland (2.3 per cent for the UK).

However, the tell-tale figure is the sharp rise in the "economic inactivity rate" – that is, those who have left the labour market altogether.

During the period there was a 1.3 per cent rise in the inactivity rate among women in Scotland compared with a fall of 0.2 per cent across the UK as a whole. For men in Scotland and across the UK there was a fractional fall (0.1 per cent and 0.2 per cent respectively).

Over the year to the first quarter of 2009, declines in female employment accounted for some 60 per cent of the overall fall in working age employment.

This is in contrast to the UK labour market where around 70 per cent of the fall in working age employment has been due to declining male employment.

Female employment rates in Scotland (72.1 per cent in the first quarter of 2009) remain above UK levels (69.6 per cent). One reason for the fall in the rate may have been the sharp rise in employment in 2006 and early 2007 as the economy hit full throttle.

The period saw a robust increase in service sector employment, with expansion in call centres and retail outlets. It is in these areas that the downturn has been particularly marked, with high street closures and now retrenchment by Scotland's stricken banks.





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1

The Creature from the Black Lagoon,

29/05/2009 00:05:51
Oh Dear.

Independence is as big a busted flush as ever.

No one in their right mind would vote for independence in the current climate.
2

Iainbroch,

29/05/2009 00:35:41
Another Union Dividend from the Saviour of the World and the Economic Maestro that is Thatcher Broon!
3

urchin,

29/05/2009 03:55:12
They say that if you put two economists in a room they would not agree on the time of day.One thing is certain this recession depression is going to have a very long term effect at least ten years, to get back to pre recession depression ledger balances.

And the recovery will be hindered by borrowing by governments to fulfill election promises.
4

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29/05/2009 03:57:43
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Phil C,

29/05/2009 04:32:32
Get these LabourTory shysters out of my sight!! The sleekit onionists amongst us are accelerating the run-down of Scotland. Only independence can restore our pride and passion as a united nation. There's plenty room down south for all the dafties like Rufass if they don't like the thought of a real Scotland.
6

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 29/05/2009 06:09:36
So despite being the Saudi of windfarms, our economy is a busted flush!!
7

The Creature from the Black Lagoon,

29/05/2009 06:12:41
Hey Baggy, you have a cheek. Apart from all those ridiculous gaelic monikers that appear from time to time, you have by far the worst one.

Next time you are banned, sometime soon no doubt, try and come back with something a bit more interesting.
8

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 29/05/2009 06:54:41
OOOOOH, TOUCHY Rufus! ;o)

So Rufus, you are obviously delighted at the current recession are you? Means Scotland is tied to the ball & chain that is the union, & a UK Govt whose policies & dithering are the ruination of the UK.
9

Graeme,

Guangzhou 29/05/2009 07:19:45
What we need from the SNP is a lot more public sector jobs to be created in parallel with pay increases. This would solve unemployment in a stroke and of course contribute a considerable value plus to the economy.




10

Jimmy Le Pie,

29/05/2009 07:49:50
I rather be poor, independent and proud, than poor, dependant and reduced to begging at our master's table for whatever scraps they decided to throw to us.


Vote SNP, the ONLY party for ALL the people of Scotland.
11

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 29/05/2009 08:16:26
10 Graeme
"What we need from the SNP is a lot more public sector jobs to be created in parallel with pay increases."

Please be careful. Some people might not realise that your comment is full of sarcasm. They might think that you actually mean this.

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29/05/2009 08:20:02
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Graeme,

Guangzhou 29/05/2009 08:37:49
12. Ugly George.

No seriously. Just expand on the current policies. Win win.

Its so simple a child could see it.
14

The Tin Man,

29/05/2009 08:42:34
#13 spagan

Any actual suggestions? Tax cut? Tax rise? More public spending? Less? Or will 'forward-looking' do it?

Considering that the idiot Scottish banks were up to their necks in causing the recession in the first place, I can't see anyone being surprised about gloomy Scottish economic forecasts.

15

The Tin Man,

29/05/2009 08:44:40
#14 Graeme

I think that everyone should be employed by the public sector, and the government should pay our wages, taxes, and pensions by borrowing the money.
16

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29/05/2009 08:57:26
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Ugly George,

Edinburgh 29/05/2009 09:07:02
14 Graeme
As has been pointed out, how would this be paid for? There are already huge levels of govt debt and any expansion of the public sector would, by necessity, incur yet more.

This would lead to a situation here the markets would not fund the debt as it would be too high. In which case the money dries up and we are stuffed.
18

Graeme,

Guangzhou 29/05/2009 09:12:47
18. Ugly George.

Woops. Perhaps im wrong? Gosh.
19

onecoleslaw,

29/05/2009 09:14:09
No-one bothered that more women than men have been rendered 'economically inactive' then? Too busy slagging off each others' political views, for a change.
20

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 29/05/2009 09:15:55
17 spagan
"The Banks you refer to were largely London-controlled "World Banks"

RBS has and had its HQ and board in Edinburgh. Nobody forced it to pursue the policies which led to its ruin. Other banks operated in the same regulatory environment and did not reach such a dire state.

Why do people continually imply that anything that goes badly in Scotland is the fault of London but anything that goes well is due to people in Scotland themselves?
21

A Crofter,

Western Isles 29/05/2009 09:18:36
I just love living in the Arce of Prosperity, where we have the most stable financial institutions.

Or was FatMan, our true Messiah, talking through his "world-class" Trumphole?
22

Richard Lionheart,

29/05/2009 09:21:56
Why are Brown and Darling still in their jobs? They have failed Scotland and Britain.Gordon Brown couldn't save a penny never mind the world!

We will all be paying for their mistakes for decades to come.

Brown and Darling should go now and there should be no Lordships for them either. They have failed!They are the worst faiures of all time.
23

Mikey,

29/05/2009 09:32:31
21, usually because that is exactly what happens! Success in Scotland is usually achieved DESPITE London, not because of it!

Mind you, the loony who calls himself "A Crofter" is probably certifiable! He wouldn't know a croft from a Tigh Dubh!
24

ianpg,

Musselburgh 29/05/2009 09:34:06
Scotland once had a reputation for engineering excellence and financial prudence. Now we have neither.
The big problem we face at present is that nobody knows how to get us out of this mess. Sure we'll tinker about with bio sciences and nano technology but any money-making developments and technology will end up in the USA where the significant markets are. Hewlett Packard, IBM, Mitsubishi and shortly Sun Microsystems have shown us that being a 'bit player' in the overall big picture is not sustainable. Until Scotland takes end to end responsibility for it's own technology and marketing our downward spiral into third world status will continue.
25

Lesley McDade,

Edinburgh 29/05/2009 09:46:53
Well its not like you don't know the issues or what to do about them : spotlight try floodlight www.lesleymcdade.blogspot.com

Question Time highlighted a serious issue - where are the newspaper headlines showing what the European Issues are for upcoming elections and who is championing what as a manifesto.

Moreover : Caroline Flint MP and the UKIP panelists claiming you cannot remove an MEP or it is nigh on impossible to do so - it is not : MEP's in the UK can be charged with the very serious crime of "misconduct in public office" (life sentence = 16 years) where they are not "beyond reproach" - being charged with a serious criminal offence or any offence should mean automatic by-elections. And that goes for the current stink re MP's expenses too. What we do not have is DEMOCRACY and the reason why we do not have it is ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution - in our legal profession and judicial systems - remove it and everything goes right again : NB I did ask for the prosecution of Miss Arlene McCarthy MEP for the non-democratic processing of the Consultation resulting in the Directive on Mediation - keep your eye on the European ball - this is the real problem which is not in our newspapers. Regards. Lesley
26

The Tin Man,

29/05/2009 09:56:51
#25 ianpg

Well, in order to become a centre of technological excellence, we need an excellent education system....

erm.. maybe Holyrood should hold another vote on whether or not to invade Gaza... congratulate boating enthusiasts... or AC/DC... umm...
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29/05/2009 10:18:31
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ecosseman,

FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA 29/05/2009 11:22:59
1* CREEP FROM THE DEEP

HOW WRONG YOU ARE (AGAIN)

THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND ARE FAR FROM BEING FEART,WE ARE STRONGER THAN EVER.

SO MY ADVISE TO YOU IS,BUY A ROPE AND END IT NOW.

ROLL ON THE ELECTION!
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Lianachan,

Highlands 29/05/2009 11:25:09
Things I just don't get about most of the more slavering unionists on here:

1) Apparent delight taken in bad news for Scotland. Isn't Scotland, at the very least, a component of their beloved union and thus worthy of some well wishing in common with the other parts? Shouldn't we ALL be disappointed with the bad news?

2) How anything bad which has happened under the current union can be thought to show that independence isn't viable. Doesn't it actually show that the current system isn't working for Scotland?

If any unionists would like to actually explain those things, rather than just level childish insults at me I'd be very grateful.
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The Tin Man,

29/05/2009 11:25:40
#28 spagan

I think the general plan is to automatically make some bankers in Frankfurt responsible for any indy scotty's monetrary destiny, (which would make shopping in Newcastle very popular, at the moment). But at least we would be responsible for our own shopping destiny.
31

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 29/05/2009 11:46:42
-- As has been pointed out, how would this be paid for?

Private banks have been creating money "out of nothing" for 300 years of the present system. O, and they take the interest on it too. So how could they go wrong?

I'd favour Scotland having its own currency, though this would mean a rethink on what is sound finance. The British Association for Monetary Reform website will give you a good history of money as we know it.

With some experience and education in ship building, £millions is not money I have, but a mechanism for getting the job done, the ship built.

In my younger days I would have taken a huge amount of personal debt on the projection that the hierarchy of bankers would have to get us the work to pay of this loan, which was taken on what we thought was a technological superiority.

As to why better houses are not built, although architects have the designs for them until the financial system grinds them down, and the system of scottish land ownership keeps us in this neo-feudalist backwater.

I hope I've challenged people to think with this little splore and that readers will make clearer and more specific contributions. The economy is in decline because we're not mobilising our talents: the new Asian Confederacy will set the agenda: system UK is NOT good for the health of Britain.
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Ugly George,

Edinburgh 29/05/2009 11:53:01
28 spagan
I don't think that you understand how RBS in particular and banks in general have operated. RBS got into trouble by overreaching itself on the world stage. In particular, it overpaid for Dutch bank ABN Amro and ran into trouble with its share issue in the USA.

These were decisions made in Edinburgh on bank operations in other countries. They were, therefore subject to the rules and regulations of these countries. Any regulation imposed in Scotland would only have applied to its minority operations in Scotland and would have had no effect on these deals.

To blame it on "sharp City of London practices" is just a facile diversion. Edinburgh based RBS landed in the proverbial manure but London based Barclays and HSBC did not. Your comments lack any logical basis.
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Eve,

Scotland 29/05/2009 12:37:57
I was hopping that there would be at least signs of it slowing down. But the unemployment keeps happening and few jobs appear in the market.

The more it happens the more unemployable some of us feel.

Whats the ratio between the unemployed and job availability now? Is it above 15:1 yet!!!

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#1 The Creature from the Black Lagoon: So what has the Wonderfull UK been doing to help us? Saving the industries that have all ready went bye bye in Scotland decades ago.
Letting Scottish Banking institutions to be bought over by English ones at a cut price of actually giving them alot of money to do it, alot more than they would of had to given the institution to help it get out of bother.
I hardly thing that was good for Scotland. What with the loss of jobs that has caused and will cause in the future.
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Eve,

Scotland 29/05/2009 12:50:14
#3 urchin: Makes perfect sense!!! That does!!

#9 Richard Taylor: It is odd how the comment is negative through and through. All signs of hope and ambition lost in the sea of negativity!!

#11 Jimmy Le Pie: Aye, you've got a point there. Some of the most generous and friendliest people I've ever met have live close to the bread line.

Also some of the nastiest and cruelest people I've ever meet have lived in a 4 or 5 car house hold.
35

urchin,

29/05/2009 13:02:13
11- if we have to live under the boot,at least give us the dignity of our own.
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29/05/2009 16:41:51
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Eve,

Scotland 29/05/2009 18:50:03
#37 CASEY PURVIS: Think your Cap Locks broken!!!
38

Geomac 1,

Scotland 29/05/2009 18:55:34
What does Alex say about this? Who's fault is it beacuse it cannot possibly be the SNPs responsibility - can it?
39

Rab haw,

05/06/2009 22:13:12
The governmentsts chief advisor hahahahahahahahaha
that says it all'
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Rab haw,

05/06/2009 22:15:29
Idiot from the black lagoon go back to the Problem page your comments have more substaance there

 

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