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End blame game on climate change, Arnie tells the UN

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Published Date: 25 September 2007
RICH and poor countries must get over their disagreements about how to fight climate change and forge a new pact to replace the Kyoto Protocol, California's governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, said yesterday.
Speaking at a United Nations conference on global warming, Mr Schwarzenegger urged countries to stop blaming each other for rising temperatures and to work together to solve the problem.

"The current stalemate between the developed and the develo
ping worlds must be broken," Mr Schwarzenegger said. "It is time we came together in a new international agreement that can be embraced by rich and poor nations alike."

Mr Schwarzenegger, a film star and one-time body builder, has made reducing emissions a key policy goal of his governorship of California, the world's seventh largest economy.

The governor said it was time to stop the blame game.

"The time has come to stop looking back at the Kyoto Protocol," he said. "The consequences of global climate change are so pressing ... it doesn't matter who was responsible for the past. What matters is who is answerable for the future. And that means all of us."

UN climate change negotiations will take place in December in Bali to try to forge a way to cut emissions after the Kyoto agreement expires.

Mr Schwarzenegger, who backed a landmark 2006 California law to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 25 per cent by 2020, urged leaders to stop talking and start acting.

"California is moving the United States beyond debate and doubt to action," he said. "I urge this body to push its members to action also."

Mr Schwarzenegger has criticised the Bush administration for not doing enough on the issue, while praising European countries for showing leadership and developing an emissions-trading system.

George Bush pulled the US out of the Kyoto treaty, which requires 36 industrial nations to cut greenhouse emissions by at least 5 per cent from 1990 levels by 2012. The US president says Kyoto unfairly burdens rich countries while exempting developing ones such as China and India.

Developing nations say rich states built up their economies without emissions restraints and argue that less-developed countries should have the same opportunity to establish their economies now.

But as emissions from places such as China and India grow, environmentalists say action by the developed world alone will not be enough to stop the warming trend.

The one-day meeting, of more than 150 countries, was also scheduled to hear from such international figures as the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, and France's president, Nicolas Sarkozy, and from the climate campaigner and former US vice-president, Al Gore.



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  • Last Updated: 24 September 2007 9:15 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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Conan,

Cgaighouse 24/09/2007 23:21:13

I agree - we should end the blame game as soon as the peddlers of this 'global warming' nonsense agree they are wrong.

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El_Kabooko,

Sacramento 25/09/2007 00:14:05

Blame game is right.

Why not let the market solve this problem? Just stipulate that all products that are bought and sold include markings stating the energy efficiency of the manufacturing process. If that product is imported into a country with a higher rating, just tax part of the difference to encourage change back at the source country?

Only problem is the third world does not really care how much they pollute the environment because most of the third world is run by thugs. Central American and equatorial forests are being cut in unprecedented amounts while mineral extraction takes place with little regards to the environment. If these countries can’t maintain the environment for their own people, what makes anyone believe they will be responsible for what happens to the rest of the world?

If the western world took a strong stance in making sure that both the people and the environment is protected in regards to products that they consume, it would go a long way in solving some of these problems.

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Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 25/09/2007 07:17:09

I blame the government....and America! ;-)

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Selgovae,

Scottish Borders 25/09/2007 07:53:34

"It is time we came together in a new international agreement that can be embraced by rich and poor nations alike."

California dreaming, I think.

The USA produces about 20 tons of CO2 per capita per year. Typical third world countries (Pakistan, Nicaragua, Ghana) produce less than one ton per capita. If Arnie is serious, logic would dictate that we asked these poor countries how they manage to do it.


#2 El_Kabooka

"Only problem is the third world does not really care how much they pollute the environment because most of the third world is run by thugs."

This must get the prize for the most moronic reasoning of the century. I think when the US can drop its per capita CO2 emissions to something like say 5 times more than the avergae third world country, then we might be able to tolerate the embarrassment of suggesting the third world ought to do something about it.

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Robert J.,

Saxe Coburg 25/09/2007 16:26:15

I am no apologist for G. W. Bush, but the USA was never signatory to Kyoto, it was not ratified by the US Senate by an overwhelming majority (something like 98-2). It would be difficult for even G. W. Bush to break a trearty to which the USA is not signatory.

#4 Oh yeah, and Pakistan, Ghana, etc. are such appealing places that they have 13,000,000 undocumened residents from countries like, you guessed it, Nicarauga. Of course the USA needs to clean up its environmental foot print in a drastic way, but using the "third world" as a standard is a bit unrealisitc.

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El_Kabooko,

Sacramento 25/09/2007 16:34:25

Hmmm "Moronic" is quite a word for you to use Selgovae.

Let's see, CO2 vs. the destruction of the environment in the third world?

Mining and timber companies enter a remote sections of the third world, displace the local populations, steal their land, remove these natural resources, pollute the water and wreck the local ecosphere. This is all done in the name of providing you and me with a cheaper widget.

My point was the fact that by living a given life style in the first world, we produce pollution and CO2 locally, yet we don’t address the pollution we create indirectly from goods we consume from the third world. If we do nothing to address the pollution created in third world, all these emission caps will just push the pollution from the first world into the third. Since a large portion of the third world is ruled by thugs, these people have no problem with building large, polluting power plants and industries to sate our demand while we feel good about living in a pristine land at their expense.

7

Bmac,

25/09/2007 16:50:43

He keeps coming back.... I wish he wouldn't.

8

Saoghal Beag,

25/09/2007 18:08:26

Oh and here's me thinking the jist of the argument was stop bickering and lets get together and do something about it, stop this finger pointing blame nonsense. Stop all the childish behaviour, grow up and lets start doing things better, all of us.

Then Conan wades in.

No doubt the little army of denialists will post their ill-educated rubbish and refuse to attempt to do anything that might actually result in some resource efficiency.

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Selgovae,

Scottish Borders 25/09/2007 20:58:30

#6 El_Kabooko

"Mining and timber companies enter a remote sections of the third world, displace the local populations, steal their land, remove these natural resources, pollute the water and wreck the local ecosphere."

Remind me gain, who are the thugs?

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Conan,

#25 26/09/2007 05:59:59

#8 - Not at all a 'denialist' ..... sounds rather orwellian, that does, if you ask me - you know just what i mean because that's exactly what that term is intewnded to do ..... shut down debate, especially when your side is losing. Lets stick with the facts, shall we? The fact is that the earth's climate is in a state of constant flux and what is occuring in a period as short as 100-300 years is statistically irrelevent. But, that fact does not elnd itself to being the political vehicle the defeated left desperately requires. Does it?

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