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Published Date: 16 February 2009
POLICE are seeking antisocial behaviour orders against 29 teenagers accused of waging a campaign of terror in a Lothians town.
Two of the ringleaders, a boy and a girl aged 16, have already been served with orders banning them from leaving their homes between 6pm and 6am, or congregating with more than two people.

The pair have both been charged with breaking their Asbos
– the girl four times and the boy twice – and face the threat of being sent to a youth detention centre.

Police have made 29 arrests among youths who have been involved in a string of disturbances since the summer.

Officers in Midlothian staged a blitz against the teenagers after receiving dozens of complaints from residents in the Lime Grove area of Mayfield, Dalkeith, who reported fights, under-age drinking, vandalism and harassment.

Extra patrols were employed in the "rabbit warren" of streets on the estate, while evidence was gathered to seek Asbos against the troublemakers.

A local shopkeeper also agreed to stop selling Buckfast and other inexpensive drinks in a bid to stop the youths getting hold of alcohol. A woman has also been charged with buying alcohol for youngsters as part of the crack-down.

The shop itself, in Oak Crescent, has been subject to a series of attacks by vandals, while other residents have had their windows smashed.

The police blitz has led to a drop in the number of reported incidents, with local residents welcoming the action. Youth-related calls in the area fell from 38 during November to 15 in December.

As well as the two teenagers served with Asbos, 16 boys and 11 girls, aged 12 to 17, are facing orders unless their behaviour changes after receiving cautions.

Five have signed antisocial behaviour contracts (ABCs), which usually lead to an Asbo if their terms are broken, and five more have been interviewed with their parents by police and the council's antisocial behaviour team. The other 16 have received written warnings.

Inspector John McGill said: "There are several streets in the Lime Grove area that have experienced antisocial behaviour problems. It had become a gathering point for youths on most nights, but more at the weekends.

"It became particularly bad during the school summer holidays. We were receiving calls about drunk youths, harassment of residents and other disturbances."

Community beat officers targeted the gang alongside council-funded officers from the Community and Police Partnership (CAPP).

Residents are also setting up a Neighbourhood Watch scheme in the area in an effort to end the problems.

One resident, who asked not to be named, said: "This has always been an area where kids have hung out and it's never been a problem. But now we're dealing with teenagers who have absolutely no respect. If you say anything about what they are doing, you get abuse and threats.

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Local councillor Lisa Beattie said: "There's been a substantial reduction in antisocial behaviour, but we're not getting complacent. We've broken its back, but there's still a lot of work to do."





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1

Euphemia Groynes of that Ilk,

16/02/2009 11:57:41
How well I recall Lime Grove as it was in the days of my girlhood, so long ago now, alas!
2

elayne,

16/02/2009 12:52:44
theres not a lot for kids to do in these wee towns,(same as here)a few kids from those wee places seem less"sophisticated"than city kids(theres more to see and do in city)there needs to be more to keep kids off streets and get an interest in something constuctive before they turn out like their parents(small town folk)
3

Sir AIbert x2,

16/02/2009 13:12:40
#2 ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh! More drivel as usual.
4

Tom Conway,

16/02/2009 13:15:17
A well placed boot in the rear, deliered with the 'swoosh' of a Achterlonie driver, might tame these weans, don't you think?
Tam
5

Sister Morag,

Lasswade 16/02/2009 13:33:51
#2 There wasn't a fat lot to do when I was growing up in a "wee town", but it didn't mean that I felt the urge to hang around on street corners harassing the locals and generally being a wee scr*te
6

ex-resident,

selby 16/02/2009 13:42:44
Asbos can effective if properly applied and enforced, but a case in my area involves a man who AFTER a "two-year reign of terror" was banned from certain areas. After repeated violations, the official response is - wait for it, wait for it - to extend the area he is banned from! Oh, and a warning. No doubt he's quaking in his trainers.
7

elayne,

16/02/2009 13:43:44
#5 i live in a wee town too,,(it sucks,as do most wee towns)and there is not a lot to do for teens except drink/annoy the **** out of folk etc,a good percentage of the parents dont give a monkeys what the kids are doing( a few are just copying what ma and dad did)here over the water it still has a "wild west"mentality from people my age to young teenagers all they want to do is get drunk and fight with people from neighbouring areas/opposing football fans etc
#3 away and lie in your ****!
8

A.A.,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 13:53:18
#7
I lived in a small town as well when I was younger and there wasn't a lot to do there either, but we didn't go around getting into trouble by drinking, harassing people and vandalising everything in sight.
It's just the usual excuse for bad behaviour.
The parents have a lot to answer for so they should be named and shamed.
9

Sir AIbert x2,

16/02/2009 15:54:25
#7 Living in a small town, with little to entertain yourself, is not a passport to drink alcohol and harrass everyone else.

I lived in a small town and fortunately liked sport and played rugby for years. Also, I had some intelligence and was able to find things to keep me occupied. I had plenty of friends who did not have to resort to alcohol and then cause hassle.

Workhouses should be created for these parasites, where they can spend a few years doing nothing but hard labour.

As for you Elayne, since you would accept that living in a small town gives reason to get obnoxiously drunk and p155 everyone else off, then I would guess that you were one off the best banjo players in town.
10

The Judge,

16/02/2009 16:31:25
Both of these scumbags are over 16 yet the EEN gives them anonymity.

It's time to name and shame these little b@stards.
11

calum,

16/02/2009 16:43:43
So much of what has been said above is correct and it is high time that we had proper policing, accountable parenting and effective measure. ASBOs are a failed policy about seeing to be doing "something" and gathering useless statistics.
2 weeks ago, 4 lads about 15 and 3 lassies were standing talking quietly, bothering no-one and a neighbour telephoned the Police who arrived some 45 minutes later and moved them on because they "were causing a nuisance" and annoying neighbours. Absolute rubbish! They were only talking and yet were branded "a nuisance". So not all youngsters are bad. Just as well our favourite fascist from Gorgie wasn't involved or he would have had them thrashed, leathered and gassed for being decent kids.
12

daywalker,

west edinburgh 16/02/2009 16:49:10
asbos have been around for a while now.i think it doesnt work. young neds think dont care .breach of said asbo says it all;/ they just hang around n scare people my solution is to tag them then they cant go out n hang around chipshops. wi weed n drink.. our parents did the same threw out time. hanging aroud chippys. but not like now.. next generation makes me quake aye.. more CCTV tag the neds seen all this before breches. says my point. doesnt work;/ peace out :)
13

Johanna,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 16:53:01
Well I think it is all very sad that these youngsters have no respect for anyone or anything anymore....
14

elayne,

16/02/2009 17:31:42
#9 i never said it was!!!!!there are many decent folk in small towns too!i was just saying there is less to do for kids,erm,,get drunk?????(im teetotal)having said that there are folk in EVERY town and city whose life revolves around getting drunk every weekend,see it all the time!parents should take responsiblity and punish kids if they go round causing aggro
15

Finbarr Saunders,

16/02/2009 17:53:09
Mayfield is a God-forsaken place. Full of ex-Glaswegians and assorted local lpondlife.

These kids will no doubt end up in and out of jail all their lives, addicted to drugs or alcohol, claiming every benefit under the sun, fathering/mothering numerous illegitimate clones of themselves and lucky to reach the age of forty.

Do we care? Do we hell!
16

daywalker,

west edinburgh 16/02/2009 18:51:57
no,15 dalkeith NOT Full of ex-Glaswegians as u say ure talking oot ure (_!_) kid. its a old n well respected place.
17

Robert12,

16/02/2009 19:49:36
Complete generalisation, Elayne. What more can they do in the city they can't in small towns or villages? If anything there's just more outlets to try and buy booze from in the city!

I've lived in various places from villages to towns to cities and cities are easily the worst. No matter how many cinemas, sports centres, community centres you have there are still going to be schemie wee neds on the street drinking buckie and acting the fool. I was up at East Craigs today and the local "gangs" have destroyed the old Somerfield with their graffiti. YCJ, CHB and ECM sprayed all over it. I'd suspect it's a lot worse in places like Sighthill, Niddrie, Muirhouse etc.
18

Dougie - Edinburgh,

16/02/2009 20:56:19
This idea that young neds misbehave because they've got nothing to do is total rubbish. There's far more to do in the age of cinema, Xbox, TV and amusement parlours than there was in the days when young folk behaved themselves. The reason they misbehave is because they can get away with it. If they got a good kicking from the polis every time they break a window they'd grow up fast.
19

elayne,

16/02/2009 22:11:46
#17 as a mum of 3,,im lucky,my kids have always had other interests and never hung round causing grief to others,as i said town OR city it happens,but i think it is more noticable in a wee town,in my town in summer its mayhem(i live in seaside town)an dits not ONLY kids causing trouble,some of the adults are just as bad if not worse(the chavvy type who come for day trip,the women go to bingo/drink a wee carry out afterwards,the men spend all day in pub and the kids run wild)they ALL need a good hard "fit up the e**e!)
20

Finbarr Saunders,

16/02/2009 23:09:58
#16 - daywalker - I never said that Dalkeith was full of ex-Glaswegians; I said that Mayfield is full of ex-Glaswegians.

Dalkeith is full of people who still point at aeroplanes when they fly overhead.

I've never heard the words "Dalkeith" and "well-respected" used in the same sentence before.
21

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 09:29:22
#18 Dougie

"The reason they misbehave is because they can get away with it."

Absolutely spot on. Discipline went out the window when corporal punishment was banned in schools and laws on physical punishment meant that a parent could be charged with assault.

It seems weird how society and the law never seem to get a proper balance in these matters.

My experience of ASBOs so far is that they are a total waste of time. Some sort of physical punishment must be restored before our society is swamped by neds (of all ages).


 

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