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Published Date: 14 October 2008
A STREET gang is being blamed for terrorising Princes Street, carrying out violent assaults and dealing in drugs.
Police are pursuing Asbos against members of the Edinburgh Young Team after blaming the gang for a "particularly nasty" unprovoked attack on Spanish tourists visiting the street.

Teenage gang members have been accused of using "shocking" levels of violence in attacking other youths around the city centre's east end.

The group of between 20 and 50 youths, aged mainly 15 to 18, congregate in the area around the St James Centre and Princes Mall, drinking heavily and taking drugs.

Two youths have already been banned from the street as part of their bail conditions in the wake of the assault on the Spanish tourists in June.

Police are gathering evidence to take Asbos and acceptable behaviour contracts (ABCs) out against others, banning them from the area.

Police have repeatedly tried to disperse the gang – who are said to regard the east end of the street as their territory – and regularly search them for weapons and drugs.

Several of the gang are understood to have convictions for violence and other offences.

Fiona Horne, development coordinator at the 6VT youth café, which has been working with some members of the gang, said: "We engaged with about 20 of the EYT at the older end who were 16 to 18. They had been causing a lot of problems around Princes Street.

"They were fighting and drinking and are actually quite notorious in the city centre. These were serious assaults they were involved in. It's not vandalism and petty offending.

"They view themselves as defending their territory, fighting people who come on to their patch. They see it as their patch of land. People have been quite shocked about the levels of violence."

Police spelled out their concerns in a report to the city council on the work of its Neighbourhood Action Units.

The report said: "There was a particularly nasty, serious assault at the east end of Princes Street involving groups of Edinburgh youths, belonging to the Edinburgh Young Team.

"They assaulted Spanish tourists in an unprovoked and sustained assault involving several young people.

"ABCs and Asbos are being pursued in relation to this group of individuals."

However, a police spokesman stressed that most of the youth disorder the force dealt with did not involve organised violence.

"While we recognise that there are issues surrounding youth disorder in the city, these are, for the most part, related to vandalism, graffiti and anti-social behaviour, rather than any form of organised violence," he said.

"Recent analysis has shown a significant drop in the number of calls received by police in respect of incidents of youth disorder.

"There was a 21 per cent drop in the number of such calls from the period covering April to July 2008, when compared to the figures for the same period last year."


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  • Last Updated: 14 October 2008 10:13 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Antisocial Behaviour
 
1

mystic,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 11:46:59
Another reason not to visit Princes Street. This is particularly scary. I don't think I will be going there with my children in the near future.

www.SeeingEdinburgh.co.uk
2

Hmm?,

14/10/2008 11:48:13
"Several of the gang are understood to have convictions for violence and other offences."

It amazes me how the sentencing for these scum when they're convicted is so feeble (and how the hell do they get bail?).

Let's not mess about with Asbos. Get them arrested and of the street by properly sentencinbg them to a decent term in prison (eg 10 years). The sentencing guidelines in this country are a joke when it comes to robbery and violent crimes.
3

ZipptJeffrey,

Castle 14/10/2008 11:49:05
I think the issue here is that these young people feel alienated in their own city of birth. They dont feel a part of the fake Edinburgh presented to the tourists. so they they become teritorial over the place they loiter around. This is merely the beginning. You will start to see a lot more home grown gangs taking their fustrations out on the tourist due to the issue doesnt recognise or suport its own people. I am surprised this hasnt happened before.
4

allknowing,

14/10/2008 11:49:29
As #1, Princes St is well and truly down the pan. And the council wonder why the footfall count is down!
5

Hmm?,

14/10/2008 11:51:23
"...of the street by properly sentencinbg..."

Oops, that should of course read "off the street by properly sentencing..." :)
6

miffy the bonfire slater,

14/10/2008 11:58:27
#3
Get a grip you! Stop making excuses for scum.

Hang em!
7

mystic,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 11:59:12
I do agree that the sentencing in this country is a joke. You'd only get something like 2 years for rape. One would expect you get 20 years for this type of crime.

www.SeeingEdinburgh.co.uk
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craig7653,

Port Seton 14/10/2008 12:05:26
A small injection given to each youth would sort this out.
9

Woody47,

14/10/2008 12:06:27
#3 What a stupid post. How the hell can you blame everyone else but the scum on the street. There have always been tourists in Edinburgh and always been youths but to blame a "fake Edinburgh" for this trouble is pathetic.
Get this scum locked up and throw the key away. There is no room in a civilised society for them.
10

Leila,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:09:14
#3: The poor wee souls feel alienated because of tourists, and that makes them violent?? What rubbish.
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14/10/2008 12:11:55
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eric,

lothian 14/10/2008 12:12:03
Im from the city and never shopped in it for 30yr like lots of freinds .ive been shopping in Glasgow.
Dont miss it.
13

Liz,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:12:40
#3
Awww, diddums. You know what, maybe we should send them on an all expenses paid trip somewhere exotic to allow them to reconnect with Edinburgh on their return.

Alternativly they sound like ideal candidates for some kind of boot camp, something to give them some idea of responsibility to themselves and those around them. Its that or set up some snipers on top the the Balmoral....
14

SDRAWKCAB,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:23:13
All they need do is pick on the wrong person and they'll get a well deserved beating.

no reports of them attacking groups of men??? they are all just a bunch of wee dafties
15

J G W,

14/10/2008 12:23:58
Well done EEN. By namechecking their pathetic "club" you've just vindicated their existence.

What fantastic bragging rights they've got now. This is just attention seeking and you're providing them with a perfect platform.

Still at least you get to sell some papers on the back of it.
16

watcher,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:24:55
They`re around every corner.
17

elayne,

14/10/2008 12:26:27
#3 yer talking rubbish,how can these neds feel alienated?half of them probably dont give a monkeys about edinburghs history/culture etc,they need a good hard kick up the @rse, end of story!
18

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:27:25
Bring back corporal punishment and marooning.

These cretans have no place in a reasonable society.

Give them a good beating then round up them and their schemie scum-like irresponsible parents and maroon them on some nasty offshore island for a minimum of one year.



19

Cynicaltalk,

14/10/2008 12:31:34
#14

Away ye go ya eejit.

Your a weegie born and bred and pollute this site with your anti edinburgh remarks.

We've got your measure, off you go back to the herald!
20

Black Five,

edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:33:45
Should be rounded up taken out to the middle of the Forth and told to swim for it.A waste of space the lot of them.
21

Decent,

14/10/2008 12:37:26
13 - I'm on board. Can I bring my tazer?

21- Was waiting for your predictable post - why don't you just cut and paste it and use the same one for all the stories? Oh you do - sorry!
22

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 14/10/2008 12:39:56
#3. What utter garbage! If this idiots are "alienated" it is their own fault, there are plenty of jobs and opportunities in Edinburgh, we have one of the lowest un-employment rates of any city in the UK.

The police know the areas around the east end of Princes that these morons tend to congregate, however one never sees any police presence until after an incident has occured.
23

Victorian-Ian . oap Edinburgh district .,

14/10/2008 12:44:52
"Police are pursuing Asbos"

Police - why just not arrest them....too scared?? Or you can't be bothered running out of a McDonalds when you're half way through a Big MAC??
24

Walter Wallcarpet,

edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:46:10
#3 you obviously posted to see who would bite if not you are indeed a herman gelmet of the highest order. These thugs don't need excuses they need a good leathering.
25

Big T,

14/10/2008 12:50:44
#3

There you have it - a perfect example of a PC orientated, liberal excuse maker for the scum in this country!

Never mind the victim - what can we do for the criminal eh.

IDIOT!!!!
26

sar,

edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:51:53
Tabloid nonsense, but a few years ago a member of this 'gang' shouted long haired hippy at someone then ran across the road at Burger king. Well a member of the 'gang' dropped his phone so i picked it up. The texts on this guys phone, were truely amazing with a graphic active sex life. Added to this many of his girl/boyfriends phoned asking for Johnny, but were shocked not to hear Johnny, and asked me if I could deliver the phone to them in Muirhouse, i thought they were having a laugh. I told them i would give the phone to Bobby at greyfriars, none of them new who Greyfriars Bobby was.
27

20something,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:52:08
#13, sounds good. Anything to have them running scared. And I bet it's these ugly wee muppets who keep breaking into my car too. I can't wait to catch one of them.
28

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14/10/2008 12:52:29
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observer9,

Glasgow 14/10/2008 12:59:28
Bully the bullies.

They genuinely don't like it and social workers can eff off as these prats need a good kicking and kicking again. Your group huggy wuggy plans have proven to be useless and so have you. Stop whizzing 40% of our council tax on yourselves and by default on them.



30

Incandescent,

14/10/2008 13:00:12
I wonder if Daniel Baird belongs to this lot.

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/antisocialbehaviour/Asbo--teenager-sits-it.4389922.jp
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JT,

14/10/2008 13:06:22
Too much is done for criminals in this country and thats what they are. Time to get rid of the PC brigade and return to common sense. #13 Good idea in principle but fraid you'll end up with the record not these scum who blight our city.
32

King o' the Castle,

14/10/2008 13:11:04
BRING BACK THE BIRCH. Then you won't see a Yob insight.
33

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14/10/2008 13:12:33
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Incandescent,

14/10/2008 13:14:07
Gorgie_Tony must be in paroxysms and unable to type.
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elayne,

14/10/2008 13:15:00
# 25,witty arnt we?away and blast it oot yer ring!

your obviously trying to be a smarty pants ,but dont give up the day job(if you have one!)
36

PaulB,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 13:16:29
#3 you are a complete idiot! These kids need to learn manners and become decent citizens. I blame their parents (older neds), and the proliferation of fast food outlets in that area on the neds congregating there - the evidence of discarded takeaways is all too obvious every morning at Waverley Market. We need less tolerance, not whingeing excuses.
37

Decent,

14/10/2008 13:21:01
42 - Ay well you dae ma heid in wi your stupid comments - and yes I have a good job thank you so you can't spout your usual ned mince at me Mrs Barmaid fi the sticks.
38

PaulB,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 13:21:21
and I doubt the owners of the Balmoral are very happy either - perhaps they should sent Shir Sean in to short the neds out! I doubt they mention this sideshow in their brochures and website - come to our 5 star hotel and have a grandstand view of the local feral youth drinking, drug taking and fighting each other!
39

Decent,

14/10/2008 13:22:21
42 - And your mother cudn'y spell either - it's Elaine! Or is that the schemie version?
40

Incandescent,

14/10/2008 13:25:24
#43 Stop it Mario, I can't take it anymore! "baby oil", "cheap parquet from homebase" - priceless!
41

Decent,

14/10/2008 13:29:09
She has a boyfriend?
42

Teofilio Cubillas,

14/10/2008 13:42:05
"Notorious yobs reign of terror"

EEN get a grip - as many have highlighted, they're nothing more than a bunch of immature, pasty-faced, illiterate schemie trash destined for useless lives of welfare scrounging and jail. Contrary to the comments by the usual whingers above, the police regularly lock them up - the problem is that (a) Nigel or Rhona will usually convince the sap on the bench that they're trying hard to deal with their drug/alcohol problem, and they'll be released, or (b) even if jailed, when they get out they're straight back to their pals for more of the same because the half-wits don't know any better.
43

Decent,

14/10/2008 13:50:33
52 - They are to show off their Sovvies.
44

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 14/10/2008 13:56:51
Yobs like these have no concerns about going to court for they know that nothing will happen to them except an ASBO, and they wear their ASBO's like a badge of honour. Unfortunately young yobs simply grow up to be adult yobs unless they can be brought into line at an early age and this is not going to happen in what is now a politically correct society that frowns upon punishing youngsters. It will need a major rethink at top level to break the yob culture and return us to civilisation.
45

SS,

14/10/2008 13:58:17
Labour's Britain
46

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14/10/2008 14:00:24
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Incandescent,

14/10/2008 14:01:23
#54 Do they also have Gorgie_Tony and Jenny MacArthur? Not a peep from either of them today. Wait a minute...
48

Liz,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 14:09:07
Those Bebo photos are hilarious. They are just a pile of wee boys who for some reason seem to think that sticking a finger up to the cameras makes them look cool when it reality it just makes them look really sad.

There is some lovely looking top qualitly Argos jewellery on display too, I wish I was cool enough to wear it - though I doubt I have quite the same style to pull it off.
49

likkitysplit,

hilarious 14/10/2008 14:13:03
#39, brilliant! You couldnt make it up.

#1. Understandable sentiment but dont give in to these ameoba. Any way a wee trip round the east end of Princes street is like taking the kids to the zoo, but for free.
50

Decent,

14/10/2008 14:36:26
Notorious Yobs? Are the EN trying to praise them up? Headline should have read silly wee boys and girls wearing big cheap rings causing a wee bit trouble! And why do the police repeatedly try to disperse them? Why don't they just disperse them?
51

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 14:38:32
Don't worry.

When they introduce the 21 age limit for buying alcohol in off-licences, have separate counters for drink in supermarkets and impose a minimum price per unit, together with banning "happy hours" and drinks promotions, the problems will all magically dissappear.
52

likkitysplit,

Better than a kick in the knuts 14/10/2008 15:04:58
#65 Aye they might at that! Lets at least try something rather than berate any attempt to tackle the problem in a way that doesnt require huge tax rises (like having enough police on the street would).
53

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 15:08:09
#66:

I assume that you are joking.
54

Decent,

14/10/2008 15:14:47
No - I think it really went over his head!
55

ANON85,

14/10/2008 15:19:43
lol i was just looking at their photos....bunch of neds. Someone needs to tell Weirs girlfirend that the colour of her face does not match the rest of her body!!!
56

Decent,

14/10/2008 15:25:51
What about Chink? I wonder why they call him that?
57

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 15:28:23
How do you get to see the photos? Can someone post a link - the one above didn't work for me??
58

celtic4,

USA 14/10/2008 15:31:00
ASBOS my rear!! Arrest these rowdies. They do not deserve to be on the street terrorizing people. And the only alienation they have is what they have sentenced themselves with.

I am NOT coming to Edinburgh.
59

Farmernot,

14/10/2008 15:32:09
Road works,Tram works,Tartan Tat, Neds.....what next for Princes St ?.......tumbleweed ???
60

Decent,

14/10/2008 15:38:21
71 - They work ok - just copy & paste them - It should give you a laugh - especially the muscles!
61

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 15:44:44
74 - cheers but didn't work - it says "am not authorised to view them"?? Perhaps doing something wrong - not hard to cut and paste though. Do I need to log into Bebo?
62

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 14/10/2008 15:46:52
Very scary and makes you want to avoid Princess Street but why should we?

Don't believe the statistics even although they say the numbers of complaint calls is less - that's due to people living in fear of them!!

They need dealt with not pushed somewhere else to carry on the same behaviour. Very difficult for the police to do anything with them due to their age.

We need change in law and somewhere where they can be lifted and placed.

Yet another occasion a clip round the ear hole wouldn't go amiss but then we made to feel the bad guy!!

Name and shame them and stop covering their faces up
63

10inchsoft,

14/10/2008 15:47:36
IM IN
64

googler,

14/10/2008 15:55:48
They want their own 'patch' ???

Fine, let's give them a patch of Princes St, fence them into it, and plug the fence into the mains.....
65

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 15:55:52
To be honest, I've walked past the places they are talking about on Friday/Saturday nights and whilst I have noticed bands of youngsters hanging around, I certainly haven't noticed any "violent assaults and dealing in drugs" taking place.

I don't suppose this story could be an exaggeration could it?
66

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 15:58:13
It's quite sad re the EEN with the two main headlines being one man has died because of trouble with scum like those above who find things like this funny and the next one almost glorifying them all. Bet the poor man's family feel sick to the stomach!

As someone said the heading for the silly c**ts should've read something along the line "stupid little ignorant ba*tards...... Princes St".
67

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 16:11:03
83 - yeh, I know he had heart problems but apparently it was still an arguement with neighbours of the same sort which you read about all the time who then get their heads kicked in or stabbed just coz they ask someone to shut up.

Also, I do have a Bebo account but after I sign in that's when it says I am not authorised to view them. As for having kids, no I've not but trust me I get quite disturbed when I see my nephews/nieces bebo photo lol.
68

ANON85,

14/10/2008 16:13:25
lol bag-off....been years since i heard that word!
69

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Giraffe,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 16:25:24
80 - funnily enough I was at the bus stop opposite Burger King a couple of Fridays ago about 10pm and there were loads of bairns at the stop too - reeking, and they did seem quite harmless but I gave them a light for their j's, they might have battered me if I said no like that girl ages ago. Glad I smoke sometimes.
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April79,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 16:25:28
#3 aww shame- they feel alienated? My heart bleeds.

Its time we cracked down on their behaviour and punished it, not defended it. They need a proper punishment not an ASBO and a hug!!!

Have a word with yourself...are you saying its ok that they commit crime, intimidate people and show no remorse because they dont like the tourist trade??? These people are not just hitting out at tourists...this group mentioned is just a tiny fraction of the hooligans who roam free in edinburgh. Give them their turf then- a couple of acres in the country (no tourists there!)and a big electric fence should do them.
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Giraffe,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 16:30:53
86 - cheers but done all that and it still won't work, won't matter, will try it later at home.
73

Decent,

14/10/2008 16:34:01
Aye - and I bet their daft wee birds will try and take their illegitimate offspring on the buses in their huge prams.
74

Grumpy Chops,

14/10/2008 16:45:24
Birch one,only one, then see how hard they are.
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fmuldar,

New Jersey, USA 14/10/2008 16:56:36
Like I have said "MANY TIMES" get the Police off their Butts & on their "FEET"---they should be treating Princess Street the same way The NYPD treated w42st back in 60's & 70's---have 2 man patrols 24/7--on both sides of Princess St---have a "Patty Wagon" on scene too haul in all these "Punks' right than & there.
When I patroled Times Sq back than these "Punks" would have been tought the "Error" of their ways "Right away".If You have too use a "Billy Club" once in awhile too get the message across or a "Night Stick" across the "Knees" too get their attention "So Be It".
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14/10/2008 17:00:33
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The Geniune Mario Antionette,

14/10/2008 17:03:35
I blamr the parents
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The Geniune Mario Antionette,

14/10/2008 17:04:54
#43 - & with his troosers doon no doubt ?
79

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

14/10/2008 17:06:20
#10 - yeah, a meat one
80

likkitysplit,

14/10/2008 17:07:19
#67. Unfortunately for you i am not joking but I didnt invent these proposals either.

#68 Yeah, just like empty beer bottles on hogmanay.

Help ma boab, I really wish I was as clever as you two who obviously have the solution but are keeping it to yourselves for some reason.

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The Geniune Mario Antionette,

14/10/2008 17:08:24
#93 - no need to do that. Its a well known fact that people can get sexually aroused by flagellation. A lot of people actually pay for it to be done.
82

elayne,

14/10/2008 17:19:07
#47,no its the american way of spelling it!!!btw im not a schemie!!!!(i have no time for them)
83

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 17:36:52
# 102 Gorgie Tony

You're funny.
84

Incandescent,

14/10/2008 17:50:23
Ahhhhh. My day is now complete.

Presumably we can expect a contribution from Jenny in due course.
85

eastedin,

14/10/2008 18:18:27
50 are you talking about me im 49
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eastedin,

14/10/2008 18:19:48
sorry 87
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10inchsoft,

14/10/2008 18:23:17
i saw these neds once they need a good pumping paul gadd would sort them out
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 18:30:01
Translation of some of the terms used by #94:

Princess Street -- Princes Street, the main east-west road through Edinburgh, currently used as a linear bus depot.

Patty Wagon -- Probably a mis-spelling of "Paddy Wagon", the coloquial term for a police van.

#95: Possibly because night watchmen used to use them?? Only guessing but it seems reasonable.
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Not for you to know ,

14/10/2008 19:16:39
haha they make me sick
waste of space the lot of them =)
90

Not for you to know ,

14/10/2008 19:18:42
but on their bebo they all think they are famous now hahaaa

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5002788323

91

Not for you to know ,

14/10/2008 19:21:44
and if they are not allowed in princes street they cant go to all the chavvy shops in Princes Mall
92

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 20:02:27
hibs baby crew were princes st top boys in the 80s!
93

Nina,

Lincoln City 14/10/2008 20:59:21
Born in Edinburgh, we have always had tourists, The tourists bring in revenue to the City, get rid of the yobs, they are not worth spitting on, They do not respect our Beautiful City, or any one in it, Scottish or not.
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Dood,

14/10/2008 21:15:36
#112 - tItt - People like you give the Hibees a bad name. Pi55 off, knobjockey.

Interestingly enough - Why not show the pictures of these young neds? Let the population (and their families) know who they are? Then we could all give them a right good hiding if we ever saw them.
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Eve...=D,

edinburgh 14/10/2008 21:22:17
would any of you guys actually say this rubbish to the kids faces ?

as a youth i can honestly say there is nothing decent that is free in edinburgh .

and you all keep referring to them as "scheemie scum" so you're claiming they're ALL poor ,meaning you're all discrimenateing them ,and i doubt many of you have any idea what it is like growing up in these areas in this day and age ,you have to learn to fight to take care of yourself ,and eventually it becomes something you automatically do when you feel threatened by someone.

nobody fights for no reason ,none of you were there on tourist insadent.and the tourists arnt exactly gonna say they were being cheeky

and doesn't anyone know about the kids in southside ,they are definately worse for asault crimes




and if this were going on in Niddrie and a child was killed i doubt it would be as big a scandal as this ,so long as it was swept under the carpet.
but the second edinburghs reputation is at risk, you all freak out .


barely any of you know enough to make a comment,
how is life the Grange?


all that needs saying


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14/10/2008 21:31:50
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Eve...=D,

edinburgh 14/10/2008 22:03:17
#117
facepalm
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if i hadn't said i was a youth you'd never have said that

and i'm not a "sonny" either ,i'm a girl

and you think i'm going to turn 18 and think back to thie last comment i wrote ?
being 15 ,commenting on the evening news website isn't all i think about .

sorry if you didn't want to hear an opinion that goes to the same school as alot of them did last year and actually knows some of them
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Eve...=D,

14/10/2008 22:04:30
**opinion from someone that goes to the same school
100

THE BPRENTICE,

14/10/2008 22:47:58
there's an easy answer to this:

Cllr Jason Rust recently suggested FAST and SLOW lanes ... so, why don't we ask the tourists to use the 'fast' lane if they encounter a neddy-cultural-exchange scouting party, then, hopefully, the neds will be stuck using the 'slow' lane ... and then we will all be glad that our fearless business and policitcal leaders concentrated their valuable time on the best and brightest ideas!!

Personally, I don't know why we don't emulate the Spanish police - when they deal with neds'n'toughs they just smack them around a bit until they get zero back-chat - much like the American nightstick action mentioned above.

BTW the term Paddy wagon is deeply offensive to one of my best mates that lives in Dublin - I hadn't really thought about the term when I used it many years ago - but it derives form the Irish immigrants being treated like the lowest of the low ala ... no dogs, no Irish ... etc.

Still a great idea to haul them away to the nearest naughty step, I think they call ... PRISON!!
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J A D E,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 22:53:46
right,

1. they edinburgh young team are normal nice people that dont fight for no reason.

2. the papers exaggerate!!!

3. the spanish where probabley being idiots, like tourist normally are!

so all you people who are righting about it being "terrible" and something must be done! just think about it for a second, coz you never know it could be your daughter or son thats doing it!

they hardly run riots round edinburgh! the tourist coz more trouble!

theres much worse things happening! & yous decide to pick on young people !

im 16 myself but dont hing about with any of them but know alot of them! & i like them.

and yous are saying that respect scotland and stuff like that! the reason the fight is for the fact tourists(people who dont belong scotland by the way!!!!!) cause trouble! & if you must know why they started on the spanish is cozs they started it!!!

what else have 16 to 18 years old do these day eh? nothing.

and putting drinking age upto 21 will make no difference by the way.

:)
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THE BPRENTICE,

14/10/2008 23:54:38
If the all the banks go down in Scotland ... at least we can count on our homegrown ned population, as cultured by their stay-away parents ... to make sure our tourism goes down the swanny too.

#121 J A D E - when you say you're "16" ... is that your IQ? man that's hinging man coz man I jist have tae say man efter every sentence man aye like those tourists an awe that man are just pure radges ken its awe their fault! One of those Spanish B!tches looked at my man, man? She had it comoin man.

HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL

I Q T E S T

Name..... J A D E

1. Shuggie has bought half a kilo of cocaine for a grand. He wants to make 300% on the deal and still pay Mad Malky his 10% protection money. How much must he charge for a gram?

2. Wee Davie reckons he’ll get £42.50 extra Marriage Allowance a week if he ties the knot with Fat Alice. Even if he steals the ring, the wedding will cost him £587. And he’ll have to start buying two fish suppers every night instead of one. How long will it be before Davie wishes he’d stayed single?

3. Joey and Davie stole a 1999 green Toyota 1600GL with 35,000 on the clock – and got a grand for it. How much more would they have got if it had been metallic silver, done 29,000 miles and had low profile tyres?

4. Jake the Flake and Fingers got grassed up for dealing speed. The Flake got 18 months but Fingers got 3 years. How many more previous convictions did Fingers have?

5. Todd wants to be a lawyer, but is as thick as Edinburgh Castle. His daddy is a Freemason and a QC. How long before Todd becomes the Lord Advocate?

6. Tamsin’s Personal Trainer charges £250 a week, but has sex with her whenever she wants it. Jasmin’s Life Coach charges £50 a week but has refused all sexual advances. Which one of the women weighs 19 stone?

7. Princes Street is 2467 yards long. On average, there is someone begging for money every 195 yards. You walk at 3.1 miles an hour. How long will it take if you tell them all to sod off and work f
103

THE BPRENTICE,

14/10/2008 23:56:32
7. Princes Street is 2467 yards long. On average, there is someone begging for money every 195 yards. You walk at 3.1 miles an hour. How long will it take if you tell them all to sod off and work for a living?
104

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:05:49
\112 Hibs baby crew backed off with a glare, even from @long-haired hippies@ in the'80s they were the laughing stock of Virgin Records.
105

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:09:37
#116 If Tony and Cherie hadn't changed the law we'd do a lot more than just "say these words" to the kids faces!

You're right about one thing though. Putting up the drinking age won't change anything, but putting you and your schemie friends down would...
106

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 00:10:55
here not being funny but yous think yous no the whole story by looking at a daft paper the picture show most of them dont come up anymore, to tell the truth no one knows the story but the people there and i know the all the people involed n they a the best people to know. they are like FAMILY they dont start for no reason and yous are on a website bitching about them bit sad think yous should grow up before yous badmouth kids ehh!
107

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:12:02
#116 now get to you bed so you might stand a chance of learning something tomorrow and not be a financial draw on the rest of us for the rest of your BLOODY LIFE!
108

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 00:13:13
here not being funny but yous think yous no the whole story by looking at a daft paper the picture show most of them dont come up anymore, to tell the truth no one knows the story but the people there and i know the all the people involed n they a the best people to know. they are like FAMILY they dont start for no reason and yous are on a website bitching about them bit sad think yous should grow up before yous badmouth kids ehh!
109

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 00:13:14
here not being funny but yous think yous no the whole story by looking at a daft paper the picture show most of them dont come up anymore, to tell the truth no one knows the story but the people there and i know the all the people involed n they a the best people to know. they are like FAMILY they dont start for no reason and yous are on a website bitching about them bit sad think yous should grow up before yous badmouth kids ehh!
110

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 00:13:15
here not being funny but yous think yous no the whole story by looking at a daft paper the picture show most of them dont come up anymore, to tell the truth no one knows the story but the people there and i know the all the people involed n they a the best people to know. they are like FAMILY they dont start for no reason and yous are on a website bitching about them bit sad think yous should grow up before yous badmouth kids ehh!
111

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:13:28
#126 - Likewise, time for bed. Concentrate on English tomorrow you utter mong
112

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:14:45
GTF Kay Dee - single mum in the making - if not already. Tube.
113

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:16:00
Stick to Bebo - loved the "muscles" gallery by the way - best laugh in ages.
114

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:18:26
bunch of kids hanging in the city centre "like family". Hmm. Brazil knows how to deal with that.
115

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 00:20:15
Oh, and you don't need to add an "s" to "you" when you're talking about more than one person. You utter, complete tube.
116

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 00:48:49
listen to you, single mum dont make me laugh what because we have a good friendship ehh f**k sake man get a grip how old are you come on eh n you think the eyt are pathetic your the one being a keyboard ganster good one
117

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:01:59
#136 I thought I told you to get to your bed! We're paying for your education (obviously not your folks, sorry - mum) so please try to use it instead of treating school as a social club before motherhood and a free flat. Think about it.
118

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 01:08:29
youu are a funny one ehh going on about my mum thats very grown up of you n for me being a mum ha a cant see that happen no a wee slag ehh n my mums got a job, house if you want to diss someone get fact ehh cause you going on about mum n that thats what 12 year old do (Y)
119

jamtart,

Beechboro WA 15/10/2008 01:10:46
Are you havin a laugh ?? this bunch o' wee muppets a gang,they coudna fight sleep.I remember the jungle and the bar-ox,now there's a couple o'gangs.
Beat this lot over the head with their teddy bears and put them to bed.
120

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:10:46
does "the social" know about your mum's job?

And why do you question your own sentences? Is that how you actually talk? God help you - nobody else will.
121

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:11:57
Yo jamtart :-)
122

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:13:30
n that n that n that that eh. Nope! Just feels plain wrong
123

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:16:47
Oh, and Kayy, I absolutely guarantee you that if I drank with your precious "crew" I'd be the last one standing, by a VERY long way. In fact, I'd be the one calling the ambulance(s).
124

kayy dee,

edinburgh 15/10/2008 01:26:06
ha you are sad i go to school n not being funny or that but the stuff you say about my mum come on eh grow up abit n i dont drink with them anymore we are all growing up, you can say what you want it was in june when it happened and you are going mad about gang fights but you didnt see any of this happen when hibs n hearts fight now thats pointless all over football n so is this arguement so am over n out eh byee :D
125

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:30:02
Au contraire Kayy, I'm happy. I'll take back everything I said about your mum (out of order), and it's nice to see you communicate like this. Also nice to see you're not (I hope) involved with this anymore. Good luck with whatever you're planning.
126

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:30:57
But you really should be in bed. So should I but I got a stormin' in-year-review today so I can chance it tomorrow :-)
127

Incandescent,

15/10/2008 01:37:31
But EYT are still laughable tools.
128

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 15/10/2008 03:58:29
Democracy, don't you just love it. "Engage" with them, as espoused by none other than Doctor Spock, who after 40years admitted he was wrong!!!Yet the muppets still trot out his mantras!!!It doesn't happen here in China.The streets are safe to walk day or night.Families play without fear of paedophiles,drunks,druggies,neds etc.Never mind you have your Human Rights.Just what exactly does that do for you?
129

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15/10/2008 09:12:42
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 15/10/2008 09:33:13
#52 Mario

"Seriously i would just electrocute them , they are not going to be any use to anybody."

You might not be right on that one, you could put them all in Stocks and create Edinburgh's latest tourist attraction. I sure a lot of tourist might enjoy throwing eggs, tomatoes and rotting fruit at them.
131

Decent,

15/10/2008 09:48:56
Aw Mr Foo - you ran out of steam! Think you are wasting your time though - she will be googling double negative just now.
132

Liz,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 10:14:20
"what else have 16 to 18 years old do these day eh? nothing."

God I hate this arguement. So these kids can't think of anything to do so they drink cheap cider and hang around on the streets. Children today have far more opportunites to do 'things' than any generation in the past. There are far more constructive things to be doing than hanging around the streets getting drunk on industrial alcohol, breaking stuff, and getting each other pregnant.
133

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15/10/2008 10:14:35
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Liz,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 10:18:46
#128
I think someone should point out to you (if they have not already) that 'yous' is not actually a word and using it so much makes you sound rather thick.
Maybe you should have paid attention to your english teachers and you would come across as slightly less illiterate.
135

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 11:01:58
#116 Eve...=D

Eve, you are just about totally inarticulate and illiterate, probably like the neds who are the subject of this shameful article and indeed (sadly) like a fair proportion of modern teenagers.

Try:-

a) Growing up
b) Getting some education

136

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 11:07:17
#100 The Geniune Mario Antionette

"Its a well known fact that people can get sexually aroused by flagellation. A lot of people actually pay for it to be done."

Mario, what a brilliant suggestion, if flogging is restored any of these retards who come back for a second dose can be classified as having 'enjoyed it'. They should then be presented with a bill for this service.

Maybe society can get something out of these anti-social misfits afterall?

137

K.R,

15/10/2008 11:48:53
Sean Weir to Martin McGarry

"its sayin we aww hang aboot up toon nd terrorise everycunt lol

nd it says aboot wat me nd chink dun 2 the tourists haha"

well Mr police officer me thinks Mr Weir has just "fessed up"
138

ANON85,

15/10/2008 12:31:38
I doubt the police will be interested. If you read the new article he brags about getting a tag for a year after being found guilty of terrorism. He phoned Edinbugrh airport and told them their was a bomb on a plane. He thought this was funny...what a retard!
139

Jock MacSprog,

15/10/2008 15:16:12
if I were a member of the Lothian and Borders police force I would be hanging my head in shame. Our police are a bunch of PC, unconfrontational wimps. Afraid of neds and only willing to stop people for speak on mobiles whist driving and not having seat belts on.
140

Canada,

Untouchables 15/10/2008 15:38:31
The police are becoming too feminized. Two many wee lassies trying to do men's work. Send in a couple of real big polis and sort this bunch out. Strange how we can't fix simple problems nowadays. The death of common sense by political correctness. Courts for cowards are erected. Be true to your mottoe Scotland, "No one touches me with impunity." Get tough!
141

fmuldar,

New Jersey, USA 16/10/2008 18:02:39
Foo---Its called a "Nightstick" because its long & made of a special wood--& was used By the NYPD foot Cops only at "Night". Between the hrs of 4PM & 8AM--"The Billy Club" was a small leather & metal tipped club about 6" long & used during the daylight hrs---too
teach "Punks' the error of causing trouble on an Officers Beat.

 

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