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Polluting factories to be shut down for the Olympics



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Published Date: 15 April 2008
By Nick Mulvenney
BEIJING will close factories and force 19 heavy polluters to reduce emissions by 30 per cent for two months around the Olympics and Paralympics to improve air quality for the athletes.
The measures, which will run from 20 July to 20 September, are an attempt to fulfil the city's commitment to provide clean air for the Games, said Beijing's Environmental Protection Bureau spokesman, Du Shaozhong. "In case of extremely negative mete
orological conditions or severe air quality, we will take even more stringent measures," Mr Du told a news conference. "As for exactly what we will do, that will depend on the conditions at the time."

Mr Du said further measures would be taken in neighbouring Tianjin, Hebei, Inner Mongolia, Shanxi and Shandong, while details of the traffic restrictions aimed at taking half the city's cars off the roads would be released later.

The extent of the shutdowns will determine in part how much the Olympics will impact on China's economy.

Among the 19 polluters are several plants run by Shougang Steel – Beijing's worst offender – as well as Yanshan Petrochemical Group, the Jingneng thermal power company and three other coal- burning plants, and the No 27 Locomotive Factory.

The Eastern Chemical Plant of Beijing will be closed for the whole two months and companies involved in cement manufacture and quarrying in the south-west of the city will also be shut down.

Industrial coal-boilers that fail to meet emission standards – the toughest in the world, Mr Du said – will be closed, as will petrol stations and oil depots if they have not made sufficient strides to restrict the emission of petrol vapours.





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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 03:17:02
As you can clearly see, we are putting an honest effort into cleaning up the air quality for the Olympics, and when all is said and done, we will continue to cut back on pollution, which is a daunting task with such a large population and being a developing country. The effort is there, and in time we will succeed to bring things down to acceptable levels. The west have done their damage and are still doing damage, so you need to give us time to catch up on development, the time is near.
2

Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 03:17:26
And they doubted me when I told them this... Ha!
3

Fitzpark,

Durham 15/04/2008 03:35:59
Of course we believed you. Now all you have do is keep all the factories shut. Free Tibet, stop supporting the Somalis. Stop executing your people, hold free elections, stop manipulating your currency. Allow a free press, stop putting lead paint on toys and melamine in pet food, stop posting ridiculous lies on this Scottish web-site and then we might start to like you again.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 06:03:10
#3 Fitzpark,Durham,
We are no more guilty of the things you mentioned than you are, the only way you will be happy if we shut our doors to the rest of the world, and we just may end up doing that. We are still developing here in China, what is your excuse for making this planet a toxic waste ground? There is far more waste in the west than there is here, but we are at least trying to control it, something that is not easy considering the super large population, and the fact that the west has been knocking our doors down for our inexpensive goods.
5

James Donald,

Newbridge 15/04/2008 07:39:39
It is not all good news from the workers' paradise in the Far East as the BBC reports that it is likely that Red China has overtaken the USA as World polluter No 1.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7347638.stm

I would have thought it was much easier for this "Developing Country" to control pollution since it is a one-part state with a huge state security apparatus to enforce what it wants.
6

Bob Christie,

Boycott the Beijing Olympics 15/04/2008 08:08:16
I am sure the free world would prefer to see basic human rights established first.
7

Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 08:52:32
#5 It is not all good news from the workers' paradise in the Far East as the BBC reports that it is likely that Red China has overtaken the USA as World polluter No 1.

First of all there is no "red" China. It's all China, dude.
I'm sure by now China has overtaken the US as the world's heaviest polluter, as it should. The interesting thing is that if you had to work that out fairly - on a per-capita basis - you would find that Aussies are the worst polluters in the world, with America second.


"I would have thought it was much easier for this "Developing Country" to control pollution since it is a one-part state with a huge state security apparatus to enforce what it wants."

Well that just shows how little you know about China.
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Mashimaro,

15/04/2008 08:53:38
#6 I am sure the free world would prefer to see basic human rights established first

er, no not really. They would prefer to see food on their plate and water in their taps.
9

James Donald,

Newbridge 15/04/2008 09:13:27
#7 Mashimaro,China - "First of all there is no "red" China. It's all China, dude" - There is a Republic of China on Taiwan which has a different government, so its not all China "dude" no matter how irritating this is for you.
If Lichtenstein was the worst polluter in the World on a "per-capita basis", I don't think it is the same problem as the pollution created by the developing RED China. Besides, the article was written by the BBC so take it up with them if you think they are being unfair to the glorious Workers' paradise (its okay, you can make a complaint to them without fear of imprisonment or worse).
"Well that just shows how little you know about China" - I know enough to make me glad I am here and not there.
10

Bob Christie,

15/04/2008 09:25:57
#8

I see now. Not only do the Chinese populace have no human rights and have the world's worst pollution
11

Bob Christie,

15/04/2008 09:26:38
#8
............................... now they nhave no food on their plates or water in their taps either!!
12

Biker,

Ayr 15/04/2008 09:44:13
More semantics and inncorrect posts from our asian correspondants.
Mashimaro. Food on their plates is one of the BASIC human rights.
Postcrap. China is at present the worst of the worlds polluters, followed by the USA. But as China and the usa cannot reach agreement on outputs I guess it will continue. As for factories closing, I'm prepared to bet they open again strainght away. Net gain..... Nothing.
13

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

15/04/2008 10:11:15
Here....this is great news for the Chinese!.....oh wait...ach well I suppose two months is better than a kick up the erse eh?
14

Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 10:27:32
#9 Hong Kong, Macau and even Tibet have different governments. It is all one China. The invaders of Formosa are not a recognised country. I really shouldn't have to be telling you this stuff.
Yeah, the BBC, and we all know how UNBIASED they are.
Actually you know nothing... Next!
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Mashimaro,

15/04/2008 10:29:04
#12 "Mashimaro. Food on their plates is one of the BASIC human rights."

Yeah, do you mind if we get those right first before you smash the country up and take away the BASIC rights
16

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Hemingway,

Ayr 15/04/2008 10:53:08
13 Horrible Dyke

Troll
18

Hemingway,

Ayr 15/04/2008 10:58:25
16 Horrible Cankers

Troll
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Guga II,

15/04/2008 11:36:15
#4 Skidmark.

You, and Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit) seem to have pretty free and easy access to the Internet, unlike the ordinary Chinese. Such access is usually only given to party cadres, who can be relied upon to toe the party line. In other words, you are one of the mouthpieces of the gangster Chinese government.

Your gangster, criminal government's genocide of the Tibetan people, the destruction of their culture and their religion is well known throughout the world, as is their repression of the Uighurs and other minorities.

Your gangster government's forced abortions and sterilisation of people, without the aid of anaesthetics, is also well known; as is their butchery of the Falun Gong. 60% of the organs taken from people executed by the PLA thugs come from the Falun Gong, and they have even been known to remove organs while these people are still alive; even Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit) has admitted this.

You own people are treated like dogs, with no rights to free speech or any form of democracy. Look what your gangster government did after Tiananmen Square. There is no way that that mob of gangsters can save face, as too many people the world over know exactly what kind of repressive society they have in China, and how corrupt their gangster megalomaniac leaders are. Wen Jiabao and Hu Jintao are corrupt criminals and gangsters.

The only reason your criminal, gangster government is trying to ease off on pollution, for the duration of the games, is because they'd lose face even more if athletes started collapsing because they couldn't breathe properly.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 11:44:28
Horrible Cankers,
I see that you are as popular as ever.

Biker,
I see that you're still talking out of your @ss.

James Donald,
With China having more than four times the population of the USA, and with China currently undergoing development, is it any wonder that we have taken over from the USA as being bigger polluters? Also, the whole western world is begging to buy our products, therefore we have more factories as well. We are trying to meet the western countries demand for our goods, but your demand has no limits, so you are all contributing to the pollution created here. I hope that I simplified things enough for you, but I expect you to come back with some more stupid claims and statements, for after all, you're the same James Donald that openly admits to hating Communism and Communists, so you will use anything as an excuse to condemn China. You refuse to give credit where credit is due, you just look at all the negative things, and turn a blind eye to all the problems in the west, problems created by the west.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 15/04/2008 11:51:34
#14 Mashimaro,Red China - "Hong Kong, Macau and even Tibet have different governments" - yet they are all controlled by Beijing. Taiwan differs from your little list in that it has an independent Government, whether or not you or anyone else recognise it as such.
"Yeah, the BBC, and we all know how UNBIASED they are". Again you seem to use the Royal "we" like some decadent, western imperialist plutocrat. Don't think the BBC is fair then make a complaint - its been done (successfully) before. Even vile propagandists and apologists for totalitarian regimes have the right to do this.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 11:57:38
#19 Guga II,
When are you going to get it through that dense head of yours that EVERYBODY in China has equal access to the internet. China has far too many internet bars for you to ever count, and each and every one of them is always packed. You don't know the first thing about China, all your information is either outdated or comes from lying western reports.
Mashimaro has told you too many times that one person was alive when his organs were removed, and it was done accidentally.
You are more stupid than anyone I've ever come across, and there is no chance for you to ever learn anything, you're too narrow minded and far too braindead. you're an insult to all mankind, and I seriously doubt that your parents had any children that lived, you sure as hell don't count amongst the living people.
The only words that you can say are gangster government, and that coming from somebody whose government is currently involved in the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. TRY TO LET SOMETHING SINK IN TO THAT OVERLY DENSE HEAD OF YOURS BOY, YOU'RE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ALL MANKIND.
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 11:58:58
#20 Skidmark.

"Also, the whole western world is begging to buy our products".

That's only because a lot of them haven't woken up to the fact that your gangster government employs slave labour in a lot of its factories.

In any event, there are plenty other countries around that can take over from your lot, particularly countries in South and South East Asia. Unless, of course, your lot of gangsters and their PLA thugs intend to invade, occupy and annex them as you have done with Tibet.

Boycott the Gangster Olympics, and boycott Gangster goods.
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 12:04:38
#22 Skidmark.

I'll repeat again that it is only trusted political cadres that get full and free access to the Internet, as you seem to do. The ordinary Chinese do not as their access is stricly controlled.

What you fail to mention is that in order to gain access to the net at one of these "Internet Bars", the would-be surfer has to hand over his/her ID card and the details are noted down along with the time and date, and the number of the terminal assigned to them.

As the Internet is constantly monitored by an army of electronic and human snoopers, people are very wary about what they look at and what they post (especially as any "adverse" comments could result in them getting a very long gaol term).

Foreign news organisations websites are regularly blocked as are a number of other sites deemed to be "unsuitable".

The fact that you have ready access to a foreign news organisation (even if it is only the Hootsmon) is a dead giveaway that you are a political mouthpiece and a gangster cadre.
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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 12:08:56
Guga, you still haven't explained how we can be comitting genocide and yet those pesky Tibetans keep on producing like rabbits.
You are so full of it. Postmark and me are different provinces even. And maybe you did not think that some people have lied to you and internet is not blocked all over China. Duh!

IT'S THE OIL, STUPID.
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 12:10:00
#22 Skidmark.

As to the use of the term "gangster", I picked that up from your gangster government as they have a habit of using it to describe anyone or any organisation they do not like. Obviously you don't like the term being used about your gangster and criminal government.

As for the YUK being involved in an illegal war, I agree. As I have stated before, Bush, Bliar, Broon and their ilk are war criminals. You can, therefore, join me in calling for a boycott of the London Olympics if they don't get out of Iraq before then.
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James Donald,

Newbridge 15/04/2008 12:10:46
#20 postmark54,Chongqing, China - "the whole western world is begging to buy our products" - I, like most of the people in the "Western World" have no say in where the goods we buy are manufactured as that is the domain of global capitalists. These goods would not be manufactured in China if you were not the cheapest ("peanut" wages, poorer working conditions, and indifference to pollution). Personally, I try to buy as many of my "western consumer goods" as possible which show the label "made in the EU" so not everyone in the Western World is begging to buy your products.
"you're the same James Donald that openly admits to hating Communism and Communists" - You make this sound like a bad thing. The opinions of lippy Communist apologists and fellow travellers do not exactly bother me but you knew that already, right?
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 12:14:27
#25 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit).

As I have pointed out to you before, it is not the Tibetan people that are increasing in number, only the population of Tibet. This is because your gangster government have moved over one million Han Chinese to Tibet to take over the running of the country and its economy.

Anyway, amadan, what's the fact that you and Skidmark are in different provinces got to do with the price of bread? Your gangster government has its political cadres all over China, to keep a watch on the ordinary people and to make sure they don't do anything "criminal", like asking for some democracy.
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 12:21:24
#24 Guga II,
Every one of your quotes came from other people in this commentary section, you can't think of anything to say by yourself.

#27 James Donald,
Right on cue, just like I said, you would come back with some more stupid claims and statements, and you didn't disappoint. You're far too predictable old boy, a very sincere weakness.

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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 12:23:27
Guga, you're lying. Han only made up 6 - 8 % of Tibet's population. You do the math.
Do you seriously imagine that ARs like Hong Kong and Macau do not have full internet access? You think Beijing and Shanghai are shut down? You think Guanzhou is shut off. Grow up.
We don't want democracy, we've seen it in action, thanks. But tell me, when the Brits occupied Hong Kong, why didn't they introduce it there, huh? huh?
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James Donald,

Newbridge 15/04/2008 12:36:08
#29 postmark54,Chongqing, China - "You're far too predictable old boy, a very sincere weakness" - This from a Communist propagandist. Not as predictable as your posts "old boy", unconvincing and about as reliable as a plumber's estimate.
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 12:47:59
#29 Skidmark.

I may have quoted another poster as regards your gangster government's control over Internet access, but the remainder of my posts, where there are quotes, are quotes of my own previous postings.

Unlike you, I do not have to receive scripts from Xinhua and my political bosses. In that regard, you can't actually say what you think, you have to follow your gangster government's party line; otherwise, you'd end up in gaol too, and lose you free and easy access to the Internet.

#30 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit).

Hong Kong and Macau may still have free access to the Internet, but the rest of Red China is strictly controlled by your gangster government, with the aid of people like you and Skidmark that spy on your own people.

If the Chinese people don't want democracy, why were they demonstrating for in in Tinanamen Square? Or is it a case that you, personally, don't want it because you might suffer the same fate as the protesters there; and end up out of the job of spying on your own people?

As to why the English government didn't allow full democracy in Hong Kong, you would have to ask them. I am not their spokesman, nor do I support any of their actions. However, unlike you, I can openly castigate the English or the Scottish government; you can't castigate your gangster government. I won't be thrown in gaol for criticising them; unlike you, who would be thrown in gaol for criticising your gangster government.
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Mashimaro,

15/04/2008 13:12:55
googoo, do you know the definition of insane? This is like Groundhog day man. We've had this argument again and again and again and I have proved to you categorically that the Tibetans as an ethnic group are growing at a fine clip - the fastest ethnic group in China, as a matter of fact.
You on the other hand, have squat. There is no way in hell that human rights group or indeed the UN can have any real figures on Tibetan populations.

"If the Chinese people don't want democracy, why were they demonstrating for in in Tinanamen Square? "

Because they were led by the CIA trying to smash China. Look, dude, 1.3 billion people. If we farking wanted democracy we'd have had it by now.

Oh, so suddenly Hong Kong and Macau can have free access to the internet but we rush around stopping other places? There is a reason why we ask for identity cards at internet cafes, but you couldn't possibly consider that, could you.

You are nothing more than a CIA mouthpiece. We are smarter than you think.

IT'S THE OIL, STUPID
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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 13:22:58
#32 Guga II,
How is it that I can spy on my own people, when I can't read nor understand their language?
Your statements just keep on getting more stupid. I am slowly beginning to pick up some of the language, but only through listening and attempting to speak it. Reading it is out of the question, they have far too many Chinese characters in their language, and I don't know how they ever learned it. They have memories far better than any of the people from the west, and learn quickly. You really need to admire this race, they have a high intellect, and it won't be long before they surpass the west in everything. The west isn't competition in their eyes, just a source of income, due to our inexpensive goods the west can't get enough of, including you.
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MacShimidh,

15/04/2008 14:41:08

postmark54 - It seems you have some problems with English grammar as well, you aren't quite sure whether China is 'them' or 'us'. Not even a good liar, huh?


"Never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions you have no respect." -- Edward Gibbon

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postmark54,

Chongqing, China 15/04/2008 15:00:21
#35 MacShimidh,
So what exactly is perfect English grammar? There's no such thing, English has borrowed from too many languages, and there are no set rules.

Besides, this is about the pollution control attempts in China, but it has been hijacked by the regular boneheads from your sh!thole country. Read post #1, and I started on the pollution issue, but it didn't stay there long, did it?

You are just another bonehead that relies on on other people to quote, no brain of your own. Be original and say something from your heart, not something you read in a book, loser. The more you open your mouth the more you add to air pollution.
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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 15:10:15
Hey Postmark, reading is easier than you think, dude. It's probably easier than speaking, depending on where you are. Westerners really battle with the tones.
Don't think of the characters as letters, they are pictures, sometimes a string of pictures. See if you can see the woman in the word for woman, and the person in the word for people, then the word "follow" is one person after another.
See if you can see the "mouth" in mouth and the dragon in dragon.
Start with the simple characters, whichever is easiest for you, and work your way up to the more difficult ones.
Good luck!
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 15:23:24
#34 Skidmark.

If you are not Chinese, as you sometimes claim, then obviously you must be a lickspittle lackey of the gangster government, who is trying hard to ingratiate himself with them, for whatever reason.

Bear in mind though, that they will never accept you as one of their own, nor employ you as a full time spy. You will always be considered as a fei gwai pei, and little wonder.

If, again, you are not one of them, you can be sure they are having a good laugh at you behind you back, and speak of you with derision.

I would also repeat that many in the West buy Chinese goods, not knowing that your gangster government employs slave labour in many of its factories.

I don't buy Chinese goods as, apart from thm being shoddy, I would not want to support a criminal gangster government that tramples on the human rights of people, and beats, tortures, gaols and murders many others, including the people of the Tibetan nation.
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 15:39:27
#33 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit).

You keep on about oil, and saying that is is "all about oil". I thought your gangster, criminal government was taking over Tibet, and killing off the Tibetan people so that it could get its hands on more than just oil. I thought they were also after all the other resources in Tibet. However, if you insist it's all about oil, then maybe it is primarily oil they are after.

That's a good one though; yet another "big lie" by your gangster government, saying that the Tiananmen Square demonstrators were being led by the CIA to try and smash China. You lies and exaggerations get better by the minute. Did you get that script from Xinhua too, or from your cadre leader?

As for me being a CIA mouthpiece, that is also a joke. Still, I suppose it is a valid ploy to try and divert attentuion away from you being an official mouthpiece of your cadre and the Politburo.

Incidentally, I have yet to come across any stories of the CIA gunning down their own people, or butchering them for their organs, while they are still alive. Nor have I heard of the CIA forcing people to have abortions, or be sterilised, without any anaesthetic. I know they are a bunch of incompetents, but they don't go in for brutal murder and oppression of their own people. They might do it in Iraq and similar, but you lot treat your own people like dogs.

There are two words that describe you Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit), amadan and breugadair.
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Mashimaro,

15/04/2008 15:47:21
#38 "lickspittle lackey of the gangster government"

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Seriously dude, who writes this sh*t for you? Mao? It's like you're trapped in the 60's. Smoke a bit too much of the whacky backy in those days?
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escabar,

USA 15/04/2008 15:52:45
um back to the original debate about pollution, I have only heard about china pollution problem I have'nt expierinced it first hand unless you count being in California and watching the smog roll across the ocean from China to the USA. but as far as the us pollution I know it is a problem but mostly on the coasts like southern california contributors (USA, China, and Mexico) it can get hard to breath some times and up in NY and NJ but other than that you can go anywhere and breath fine, I dont belive that any other country has had to shut down companies so atheletes can breath
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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 16:12:54
#41 It's really very bad in China and lot needs to be done to fix it. It's an industrial revolution, we are hoping to push on through to the other side.
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escabar,

USA 15/04/2008 16:16:40
"Never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions you have no respect." -- Edward Gibbon

First off no good has ever come from an argument, because an argument is fueled by anger and resentment. Now a debate on the other hand, is based on facts and intellegence which can change countries and the path of humanity
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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 16:18:06
#39 goo goo...blah blah blah blah blah. go look on the other thread you got it more or less chapter and verse.

I see you think it's okay if you torture and kill othe people as long as there are not yours. That makes the rest of the world feel comfortable.
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escabar,

15/04/2008 16:19:34
#42 I understand, I can see it from your side and my side that whats needs to be done not constant bickering back and forth that wont solve anything, and you are right you guys are definitly in a industrial revolution that will proboly last another 20 years
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 17:11:35
#40 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit)

Is that you besmirching the name of your beloved former leader Mousey Dung? You won't get far in the Party, will you. You'll stay as a low level functionary and spy cadre, and never progress to higher levels.

I'm sure your criminal leaders, Wen Jiabao and Hu Jintao still revere Mousey Dung, after all they still emulate his gangsterism.
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 18:06:43
#40 Mushy Marrow (The Rabid Rabbit).

Talking of 60's style language, I note the Chinese Embassy in Canberra, along with some of their running dog students in the city are proposing to hijack the torch of shame run in Canberra. According to the Sydney Morning Herald:

"THOUSANDS of Chinese Australians are being asked to rally and defend the Olympic torch from Tibetan "splittists", "scum" and "running dogs" when it arrives in Canberra next week.

One letter widely circulated among Chinese Australians said "the China forces" in Canberra are weak and need reinforcement because the city is a "separatist base" for Falun Gong, pro-Tibet, pro-Uighur (an ethnic minority group in China's north-west) and other "splittists". It said that no Chinese can tolerate being humiliated by "scum of the Chinese nation" and "running dogs".

Zhang Rongan, the Canberra-based student organiser, said the Chinese embassy in Canberra "is organising buses, food and places to stay" for protesters.

Chinese security official in Beijing has also told the Herald that the embassy was organising volunteers to provide a human wall to protect the torch, although the embassy did not return calls late yesterday."

Nice to know what your people think of the Tibetans (whom you claim are part of the Chinese nation), i.e. splittists, scum and running dogs. Can you wonder that the Tibetans want their country returned to them, and to rule themselves?
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Biker,

Ayr 15/04/2008 20:50:47
Guga11 Good to see you back and read your posts. It seems that while Mashers and Postcrap are allowed to go over old ground the rest of us are castigated for doing the same.
The CIA financed and led Tiananmen Square!!! Hey thats a good one. Mashimaro I think you have finaly dropped over the edge, joining postcrap on the way. As to the comment that Tibet currently only has 8% Han, are they leaving in droves? I remember the UN getting quite worked up about 20 years ago with regard to the Han population which at the time was closer to 22% Perhaps just another aberation on the part of the Beijing bean counters.
Postcrap. Y'know even speaking out of my a@@ as you so eloquently put it, I still seem to make more sence than you. I see the witty and wonderfull mouthpieces are hard at work again. Its about more than oil stupid.
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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 23:45:17
Biker...just where did the UN get their figures then? Huh? Given that no population census figures were reliable.

Dude, CIA = NED...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article30032.html
http://www.friendsoftibet.org/databank/usdefence/usd4.html
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Mashimaro,

China 15/04/2008 23:49:48
#48 I can't argue with you there. It's quite humiliating. They really need some of those western spin doctors that make countries' human rights abuses all okay.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 16/04/2008 00:14:28
#24 Guga II
"I'll repeat again that it is only trusted political cadres that get full and free access to the Internet, as you seem to do. The ordinary Chinese do not as their access is stricly controlled."

I shouldn't dignify any of your foolish retorts here and elsewhere with a civilised response, but you apparently never tire of repeating ad infinitum second-hand histrionic crap. Well, if it makes you feel good ...

Let me repeat what others rather more knowledgeable than yourself actually KNOW about China and, in this instance, its internet services. I rely extensively on the internet for reference checking, and in China I have no problems whatsoever getting what I want online, when I want it. Neither do my Chinese friends and colleagues. All that tripe about "only trusted political cadres that get full and free access to the Internet" is just so much codswallop. Where does that pearl of Mickey Mouse wisdom come from? But that and your other predictable shouting nonsense is the sum total of your contribution to any article with the word "China" in it. You make no effort to understand or comprehend.

Like so many mouthy others, you have no personal experience of the country, its people and the progress it is trying to make in the face of negativity such as yours. So unless you can personally witness and know, like all of us from the west who actually do live and work there, either put up or shut up. Taking the p!ss out of posters' usernames is not exactly original or clever either, and serves further to expose your weak character. You really are a tiresome specimen and a bloody embarrassment to Scotland.
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Hemingway,

Ayr 16/04/2008 01:01:29
46 & 50 Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen

Disgusting Troll
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Mashimaro,

China 16/04/2008 01:13:29
# 53 Well said... and hello to Hong Kong.

To all: If our products and our Olympics are not good enough for you, I would urge you to protest most strongly about taking our money.
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It's My Turn,

The Boarders 16/04/2008 03:01:31
50 Horrible Cankers

Why do you have such an obsession with dog whangers? Every day you are commenting on them and they never have anything to do with the article. It sounds like you enjoy eating them and I for one am sick of hearing about it.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

16/04/2008 10:16:33
56....You love it!....now shut up and take your turn...here bite on this rubber bone....I'l just put some cotton wool in your ears so you dont hear the knives being sharpened...

Troll.
58

It's My Turn,

The Boarders 16/04/2008 10:50:47
57 Horrible Cankers

How dare you tell me to shut up and call me a troll, you need to learn some manners. You have a real potty mouth.
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Another Friend,

16/04/2008 11:42:15
# 59 Mouthy Dong

You are the same Troll "Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen" using another ID, that's what Trolls do.
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16/04/2008 12:37:48
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Biker,

Ayr 17/04/2008 19:52:19
Mashimaro. Sorry I forgot. The whole world is wrong and China is ALWAYS right. As if!!
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Mashimaro,

China 19/04/2008 01:32:57
Awwww, you so sweeeeeet when you get all hopeless. Go back to sleep in you arm chair it is all a bad dream.
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Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

19/04/2008 12:04:15
No dear...it is a nightmare for the oppressed peoples of China and Tibet...

 

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