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Published Date: 22 January 2009
ONE in four older workers is having to abandon dreams of early retirement because the economic crisis has hit pension pots and savings.
A survey found almost a quarter of those aged 55-64 expect to postpone their retirement plans as a result of the recession.

Those who had aspired to the middle-class dream of taking it easy after 40 years in employment are now being forced to con
tinue earning as their pension schemes, share portfolios and interest rates on savings all hit rock bottom.

The report suggests the number of people working beyond retirement age, which is already one in ten in Scotland, is set to swell even further.

The supermarket chain Asda already employs 307 over-65s in Scotland, with other companies such as the DIY chain B&Q well known for taking on older staff.

According to the latest labour-market statistics, the proportion of men aged over 65 and women over 60 who work went up by 7.8 per cent in the past year.

That is more than the 2.3 per cent rise for 25 to 34-year-olds and 1.6 per cent for the 35-49 age group.

The details of those who now plan to keep working beyond retirement age came in a survey by the market analyst TNS Finance. It found 24 per cent of 55 to 64-year-olds intended to postpone their plans to take it easy after 40 years of work because of the recession.

The results have been put down, in part, to new anti-age-discrimination laws passed in 2006 that allow people to work beyond traditional retirement ages.

But the biggest reason is believed to be the increasing number of people denied final-salary pensions, who have had to rely on money-purchase schemes that are more sensitive to fluctuations in share prices.

Added to that, the economic crisis means interest rates on savings have plummeted after the Bank of England cut the base rate to stimulate the economy. And share portfolios have drastically lost value, leading to a decrease in dividends.

Already one company, Nationwide Building Society, is looking to provide its staff with a new product to meet the demands of those who wish to keep working. Its flexible retirement policy extends the upper age limit of employees to 75 and waives the discretion given to employers under the 2006 Age Regulations Act to refuse any requests from over-65s to continue to work.

The survey's findings have struck a chord with business groups and unions in Scotland, who say more and more employees are abandoning their retirement plans.

The Scottish Trades Union Congress (STUC) blamed the withdrawal of final-salary pensions in the private sector and warned that would dramatically affect the health and life expectancy of older people.

Union officials have used the survey results to justify their fight to keep more generous and secure final-salary schemes in the public sector, where people are able to continue with their retirement plans.

Ian Tasker, the STUC's pensions spokesman, said: "We have warned for a long time that this would happen with the end of the final-salary pension schemes. It is one thing somebody wanting to continue to work because they enjoy it and a different thing that they are forced to work into their old age because they cannot afford to retire."

The collapse of final-salary pensions and rise of money purchase schemes has been blamed on Gordon Brown. Political opponents say that if he had not, as chancellor, taken £5 billion a year from pension schemes since the late 1990s, then people would not have to be making choices now about staying on at work.

David Mundell, the shadow Scottish secretary, said: "The results of the current economic crisis simply compound the £5 billion-a-year tax raid Gordon Brown launched on our pension funds when he was chancellor."

The results of TNS Finance's survey of 1,000 older employees matched those of the Confederation of British Industry's pension studies in Scotland, which suggested one in five workers would stay on after the normal retirement age.

David Lonsdale, the director of CBI Scotland, argued that the fact people would choose to stay on at work was not wholly bad news, especially as people were living longer and complex rules had made pensions more costly for employers.

"It is encouraging that the new right to request postponed retirement appears to be working well," he said. "Firms want to retain employee skills and experience, while staff can enjoy a phased retirement or continue working flexibly to boost retirement savings."

Jim Mather, the enterprise minister, had sympathy for workers forced to give up their retirement plans but said it might help the Scottish economy.

He said: "No one wants to be forced to work longer than they planned to. For a variety of reasons, many people already opt to work well into retirement, but I know that employers are increasingly returning to a widespread recognition of the strengths, wisdom and experience that older employees can bring."

The plight of older British workers comes as an Icelandic radio station has heaped further embarrassment on the way the UK treats older people. It has collected thousands of items of warm clothes and shipped them over to Britain to stop pensioners dying from the cold after hearing that 260,000 British pensioners had died during the winter months over the past decade.

'Some older people are losing their pensions'

NANCY Dalziel, 72, from Edinburgh, could have retired 12 years ago but felt she had to go on working.

Part of her determination to stay in work came from a desire to make sure she had enough money to live on, a pressure she believes will only increase – on her and others – because of the credit crisis.

Ms Dalziel works three half-days and one full day every week at the B&Q store in Newcraighall, staffing the telephones.

She enjoys her work and says it gives her the motivation she needs to keep active, but she accepts that this is no longer enough, especially in the current financial climate.

Ms Dalziel could have left the civil service at 60, but stayed on for five years and then came to work for B&Q, where she had already been working part-time for 11 years.

"Part of it is financial," she said. "There were personal circumstances starting with a new home. I had to buy a house but I would also stagnate if I stayed at home.

"This gets me up and out of bed in the morning, and I'm working with a great team.

"But the way things are looking now, things are only going to get worse for lots of older people. Working to older ages will become much more prevalent now. More people will have to work longer."

She added: "Some older people are losing their pensions. I have been quite lucky because I have a civil service pension, it's not great and I suppose I could manage if I had to, but I like to have a holiday and I like to have my car.

"If I want these things, I have to work."

Ms Dalziel has no plans to retire, at least not yet.

"Health permitting, I will be happy to stay on here. I think I may be the oldest one here, although we might be recruiting soon and other older people might start working here too," she said.

ANALYSIS: Hamish Macdonell

The longer people stay on, the harder it is to start


IT USED to be so simple – work to 60 or 65, cash in your private pension and head for a rosy retirement of cruises, crosswords and grandchildren. Well, not any more.

The economic crisis has squeezed private pensions to such an extent that more and more older people are putting off retirement and staying in work.

While this is good in part – it helps battle against ageism in the workplace and retains accumulated knowledge in jobs and services – it is not so good for those further down the age line.

The jobs market is already contracting. There are fewer jobs for those looking for work and more and more people searching for those jobs that are available.

It is already hard enough for the jobless to find work, but what is going to happen in June when 74,000 Scottish graduates are emptied on to an already crowded jobs market?

Older people may want to stay in work for financial reasons and they may have every justification for doing so but the knock-on effects down the other end of the job market will be considerable.

It is also not as if the public sector is immune from this problem. There had been an assumption that because public-sector workers, such as teachers and civil servants, have generous state-funded final-salary pension schemes, they would continue to keep on retiring as soon as they could to enjoy their pensions without having to worry about the state of the market.

But that is no longer the case. Many teachers also invest in the markets and most have money tied up in property, both of which have been hit hard recently.

If those teachers approaching retirement stay on, it blocks the move upwards of middle-ranking teachers, preventing them from freeing up jobs for those below them and right on down the line to those at entry level.

The figures are already stark. In November 2008, the number of unemployed teachers hit a three-year high, according to the Office for National Statistics. Also, the number of Scottish teachers claiming Jobseeker's Allowance soared from 155 in 2005 to 400 in 2008.

If this is taken together with the latest labour market statistics – which show that the proportion of men over 65 and women over 60 who work went up by 7.8 per cent in the past year, well above a 2.3 per cent increase for 25-34-year-olds and a 1.6 per cent increase for 35-49-year-olds – a bleak picture emerges.

The message seems to be: if you are in a job, keep it, however old you are. It may be a selfish attitude, but it is not hard to see why more and more people have decided to adopt it.





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  • Last Updated: 21 January 2009 9:40 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Credit Crunch
 
1

Forward not Back,

22/01/2009 00:03:31
The only consolation for people in this situation is that they have the best redundancy terms in this mess.

However, Brown's pension raid at the start of his tenure in 1997 is really starting to hit home. Also, while this situation is hitting private sector workers, the public sector is enjoying index-linked final salary schemes. These need to close.
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Tris,

22/01/2009 00:18:32
Oh dear Mr Bob MacGregor. I work hard too, and I've lost colleagues. Can I have a government bonus?

How about the people in Woolworths; they worked hard right up to the end? How about all the other companies going broke? What about their staff?

This is beyond belief.

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Tris,

22/01/2009 00:20:57
I'm sorry, I posted that on the wrong story.
4

Unelectedbythepeople,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 00:22:55
Follow the trial it will lead to Gordon Brown, he raped pensions he sold the gold when you are stacking shelves in Asda on the night shift and you are 80 years old Brown will be tucked up in bed with millions in his RBS account
5

Jock MacSprog,

22/01/2009 00:37:07
boo hoo. Work shy (post war) Britain is one of the few places in the developed world where people seem to think they have some god given right to retire 10 years early at age 55 and be maintained in a life of comfort and ease by the Gvt. Get real.
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Conan the Librarian™,

22/01/2009 00:57:12
5
Ever read Animal Farm, Jock McSprog?
7

eDUCATIon,

22/01/2009 01:07:26
Well, the "older" and wiser generation who thought they had the financial and money markets markets sussed, eneded up getting us all in this mess.......

About time they all retired.....



8

Bill_on_a_boat,

Docked for the night 22/01/2009 01:29:06
Well - the Bards' day is this weekend, and it seems he foresaw these dark days over two hundred years ago.
A wee bit of poetic licence was taken with his wording - but not much.
Interesting how accurate it is though....

tinyurl.com/bzthnm
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Alan B,

22/01/2009 01:58:15
The deliberate destruction of uk pensions for political gain is coming home to roost.

Add that to the unfunded public sector pensions that pushes the uk debt to greater than 100% of gpd even before this current crisis and the whole shambles becomes apparent.

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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 22/01/2009 02:06:28
James Thurbur noticed that people (in America) didn't have the ENERGY to retire that he'd seen in France. When you've achieved your goals, it's time to cultivate your hobbies and interests. At the pace that suits you.
11

Gled,

22/01/2009 04:39:40
As a public sector employee I am untouched by this financial meltdown and even though I benefit from enjoying a fully protected job no matter what happens in the "real" world and gain from the added bonus of gold plated pension scheme which through the defined benefits scheme & not defined contributions I pay in less but get about 4 times more than any private sector contributors I fully empathise with difficulties being endured.

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John Cameron,

St Andrews 22/01/2009 07:44:55
The most important thing for ZANU Labour in the present crisis is that the prospects of members of parliament and Pa Broon's jobsworths in the public services are fully protected. The rest were never going to vote Labour anyway so they are on their own.
13

Boab1,

22/01/2009 08:08:03
Unfortunately, people with share portfolios took the gamble and, for now, it hasn't paid off. I work with a guy in the same situation. It's unfortunate, but life goes on. I feel more sorry for people who have taken out a pension scheme and have been let down by companies who are supposed to know what they are doing.
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22/01/2009 08:21:03
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MacMhuirich,

Ljubljana 22/01/2009 08:29:35

It is good that older people have the option of working longer but we must also remember that younger people are finding it harder to get jobs and their position when they in turn come to retire, they will be much worse than the current post-65 generation, since they will have fewer years of pension contributions, less generous pensions, will have had to pay more for the studies and property so will probably also have lower savings. Add to this the fact that older people (65 plus) are cheaper to employers since they no longer have to pay National Insurance contributions.

Forward not back, Unelected by the people.

Pensions funds do not pay tax, so they should not be entitled to tax credits on UK dividends. There is no reason why the UK government or taxpayer should gross up the dividends they receive. Now other country does this. Gordon Brown's so called raid on "pension funds" is a red herring. UK dividend income is an extremely small part of pension funds' return and tax credit is only 10% of this. Pension funds' problem is that they invested in too risky investments for their investment goal, which is long term preservation of capital and moderate capital growth. If you invest predominantly in equitis, you risk losing your money.
16

11+failed,

the pans 22/01/2009 08:57:51
The Tories could never have taxed pensioners and working class people out of their car or managed to force them to work on after pension age. Another "success" for Mr Brown.
17

Ugly George,

22/01/2009 09:07:35
15 MacMhuirich
"UK dividend income is an extremely small part of pension funds' return"

That is not the case. You have to remember that an individual's pension is built up over 30/40 years. Dividend income can be 3/4% per annum or even more. If you compound this over 30/40 years you get a significnat return.

Look at any long term investment fund and compare the overall return with no income reinvested, net income reinvested and gross income reinvested. The difference is substantial and can be huge.

You are also ignoring another aspect. When you collect your pension you are only allowed to take a maximum of 25% as a lump sum. The remainder is paid as income which is liable to income tax. So you are paying tax on something which has already been taxed - you are taxed twice.
18

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 09:12:33
#17

Your`e not taxed twice.You get tax relief on your pension contributions.
19

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 09:26:05
18 The Gasgow Ranger
Yes you are. If you didn't get tax relief it would mean that you are taxed 3 times.
20

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 09:36:28
The problem with Gordon Brown's introduction of tax on pension dividend income is that he fell into the same trap as many others in the late nineties.

Throughout the nineties stock markets performed well and he naively thought that this would continue indefinitely so that pension funds would perform well. As a result he thought nobody would notice the tax hit on pension funds.

Unfortunately, stock markets have slumped with the FTSE index being well below its level of 10 years ago. This means that people's pension funds have slumped and been hit with tax with result that their retirement plans are stuffed - unless, of course, you are in the public sector.
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MacMhuirich,

Ljubljana 22/01/2009 09:59:03
Ugly George

When you receive UK dividend, there is no tax deducted unlike a dividend from say a US, Canadian or Italian company, where this is a withholding tax ranging from 25% to 30% depending on the country. UK taxpayers (individuals and trusts) gross up the dividend received in order to obtain the taxable amount, the difference between the gross and net dividend being the "tax credit", however, dividend income is taxed at a lower rate than other income, so people are not taxed on money they do not receive. What Gordon Brown did was stopped paying tax credits on UK dividends to pension funds, which to me is correct, since pension funds do not pay any income tax so they should not be entitled to tax credits. There is, therefore, no double economic taxation in respect of UK dividends received by pension funds, there is, however, in respect of overseas dividends, which have suffered withholding tax. Double taxation is more serious problem in respect of tax on people's savings income (interest, dividends), which in turn derives from savings from employment, which has already been taxed. The way to deal with this is to have a fair and progressive tax system.

UK dividends will only represent 3-4% of a pension fund's annual return if nearly all its assets are invested in UK companies, which they never will or should be, since pension funds should diversify their investments and less than 50% should be invested in equities, let alone UK equities.
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Ugly George,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 10:30:39
21 MacMhuirich
Your argument is rather semantic. The tax credit is, in effect, the same as witholding tax as applied in other countries. The mechanics may be different but the principle is the same. The term "tax credit" is usde to indicate that you have paid tax which can be taken into account in other tax calculations.

So your assertion that Gordon Brown "stopped paying tax credits" is really misleading. He was not paying them anything - he was just not taxing them. Now he is.

The reason pension funds don't pay tax is that you are taxed on the income you draw from your fund.

Also the reason income tax on dividends is only 10% is that the dividend is paid from the profits of a company which has already paid corporation tax on those profits (28% in the UK) so a basic rate tax payer is paying 38% in effect on his/her income on his/her UK company. Top rate taxpayers pay 32.5% tax on dividend income meaning that they are paying 60.5% tax on the income from their companies.
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MacMhuirich,

Ljubljana 22/01/2009 11:00:23
22 UglyGeorge

The argument is not just semantic. Take a pension fund and an basic rate taxpayer who have an identical shareholding in a UK company. Both receive a net dividend of GBP 90.00. The basic rate individual tax payer declares GBP 100.00 on their tax return and pays 10% tax on it so that they end up with GBP 90.00. The pension fund pays no tax and still ends up GBP 90.00. Why should it receive more than the basic rate taxpayer, i.e. GBP 100 if it can reclaim the tax credit?

The economic double taxation of dividends (corporation tax on profits then income tax on dividends) is wider issue. Personally I think taxation on dividends as on any other income is justified as part of a fair and progressive tax system.
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22/01/2009 11:42:52
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IainA,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 13:51:47
I get fed up with the posters on these pages going on about the "cushy" pensions enjoyed by public sector workers.

They seem to feel that because their employers are a bunch of greedy rogues who happily shaft their workforce to make a buck that everyone else has to be as badly off as them.

Tell you what, instead of banging on about the iniquity of final salary pensions, why don't you get together and make your employers give you a decent pension?

Or is that too difficult as compared to being publicly envious of the supposed ease and comfort of a civil servant's final salary pension?

Just in case you hadn't noticed, Civil Service Pay sucks, so a final salary of 40/80 ths of a rubbish salary is still a rubbish pension, even if it is index linked.
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GraemeH,

Edinburgh 22/01/2009 13:53:17
#23 - The tax gross up was intended to compensate for the fact that dividends can only be paid from taxable profits.

Pensions were structured on the basis that no tax should be paid on monies on the way in and under management, given that the ultimate beneficiary of the pension scheme pays tax on it when they draw their pension. Consequently the gross up was intended to avoid the situation where someone is paying tax on income that has already been taxed (in this case in the hands of the company that paid the dividend), but that they would be taxed on it when they draw their pension.

Note also that original tax credit pension funds claimed back was 25% of the net dividend. So a fund with a net dividend yield of 4% was claiming back an extra 1%. Compound that for 40 years and it makes a difference.
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22/01/2009 20:14:05
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Buckfastleigh,

22/01/2009 20:17:46
Save the revenue all the hassle just work till you drop and deliberately leave no will! Relish the wicked thought of donating any savings you may have accumulated to the Crown. Just work on and on accumulating the cash, and don't forget to continue to drink your Buckie as well...enjoy!

 

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