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Kenny Farquharson: A curious way to run a country



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Published Date: 05 October 2008
Join Scotland on Sunday assistant editor Kenny Farquharson from 8pm GMT today for an online chat about the issues of the day. Add your questions or comments below – now – and visit here later today for the live discussion.
IT WAS Norman Lamont who came up with the most withering description of John Major's administration when it was teetering on the brink. Major, he said, was "in office, but not in power". Ouch. It's hard to think of a more damning thing to say about
a country's leader. Yet it's the phrase that occasionally comes to mind about Alex Salmond's stewardship as First Minister of Scotland.

It shouldn't be this way. Salmond is the popular head of a popular government. He doesn't face a fraction of the difficulties Major had to contend with – uppity rebels, public disdain, an economic crisis for which he was held personally responsible. Nevertheless, the SNP leader doesn't look like a man convincingly in control of how his country is run.

Take education, a subject you might have thought was a central concern of any Scottish government. One of Salmond's key manifesto pledges – reducing class sizes – lies in ruins because local councils say the policy is impractical. Similarly with free school meals for kids in the first three years of primary. When this was announced last week, some councils promptly said it couldn't be done without cuts elsewhere in school budgets. In both these cases the response from the Scottish Government was a simple shrug of the shoulders. "We only make the policy," they seemed to be saying, "don't blame us if someone else doesn't implement it." It's a curious way to run a country.

The Scottish voter won't take kindly to this. Call me old-fashioned, but I think voters like politicians to keep promises. They want results, not excuses, regardless of how much the SNP believes its stance is justified by the facts and other people's intransigence. Voters like a government that gets things done, by whatever means necessary. And if that means ring-fencing cash given to councils to ensure money goes where it should, so be it.

There's a good practical reason why Salmond is unwilling to get tough on local government. He agreed to scrap ring-fencing as part of the deal that froze council tax. He needs to keep the council leaders sweet. But the price he is paying is surely too high. Our councils are responsible for vast swathes of citizens' lives – too much to be simply left to get on with it. A shrug just isn't good enough.

On top of this comes the SNP's favourite excuse: blaming Westminster. Salmond's inability to deliver a range of manifesto pledges – from £2,000 grants for first-time homebuyers to scrapping student debt – is not his fault, apparently. Nor is it John Swinney's fault for back-of-a-fag-packet calculations made in opposition. No, it's the Treasury's fault for handing Scotland a "stingy" block grant (in reality, Scotland's usual share of the available pot of cash, determined as always by the Barnett Formula). The fact that Salmond actually has the power to keep his manifesto promises by raising income tax is conveniently forgotten. Far better to moan about being short-changed and say: "It wisnae me."

All this is disheartening to watch. One of the reasons Scotland welcomed an SNP government was the prospect of an administration that would be confident and self-reliant. In its early months we admired its swagger and can-do attitude. The last thing we wanted was a whinge. Yet that's exactly what we're getting – a whinge about the councils, a whinge about the Treasury.

I don't particularly care if it's good or bad politics, it's bad psychology. It panders to one of the least attractive facets of the Scottish mindset – the inability to take responsibility. One of Salmond's goals is to engender enough self-confidence in the Scottish people that they are comfortable about taking the next step to independence. So why routinely undermine this by habitually blaming others?

We can expect to see the blame game extending to the Holyrood Parliament itself. Salmond's first instinct on winning last year's election was to forge a coalition deal to ensure stable government. In fact, he couldn't bring himself to make the necessary concessions to make this happen. So we have a minority government that will fail to turn many of its manifesto promises into law, and a legislature that will pass far fewer laws than before. Instead of accepting responsibility for this, the SNP's approach will be to blame the opposition.

This won't wash. In fact, if last week is anything to go by, the opposition at Holyrood will prevent the SNP from making some appalling political errors. For some bizarre reason known only to themselves, the Nationalists believe the best way to stop 12-year-olds drinking Buckie on street corners is to stop shops selling alcohol to young adults aged between 18 and 21. No, I don't understand the logic either. Nor do I understand why it should be a criminal offence for a third-year law student to buy a bottle of wine to take to a dinner party. A Holyrood vote last week ensured this bonkers law will never make it to the statute book. The Nationalists will still suffer students' wrath at the next election, but not nearly as much as they would have if the law had passed.

The people who voted Salmond into power (and the people who voted for other parties but are happy to see him give it a go) expect a bit more savvy, a bit more sense. And when it comes to getting things done, they expect more leadership, and less shrugging of shoulders.

Join Scotland on Sunday assistant editor Kenny Farquharson from 8pm GMT today for an online chat about the issues of the day. Add your questions or comments below – now – and visit here later today for the live discussion.



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1

G.Campbell,

04/10/2008 22:42:31
"It panders to one of the least attractive facets of the Scottish mindset - the inability to take responsibility."

Good grief.
2

A Scott,

Glasgow 05/10/2008 00:15:44
Notice how Farquharson never mentions his Luvvy Labour chums ( Restless Nation) Kirsty Wark and her man Alan Clements ( did you read wit an Engish High Court Judge said about him ?)
He hates Wee Eck and the SNP ( Im surprised his spitle hasnt fused his keyboard)with a vengence and every week its the same Unionist P--h.
Typical North Briton on Sunday Journo.
3

AM2,

Scotland,UK 05/10/2008 00:26:13
#1

Good grief, indeed!

Kenny: It's nothing to do with self-confidence. I would be perfectly confident that Scotland could be a successful independent country. But on a number of levels I think we're in a much stronger position as part of the United Kingdom.
4

ratzo,

05/10/2008 00:29:51
"Kenny Farquharson - A curious way to run a newspaper".
5

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 05/10/2008 00:48:43
Kenny, I think you've taken this opinion thing a bit too far. Salmond and Major similarities? Now there's two men who couldn't be more unlike one another. You might want to include the real factor which makes the biggest difference: it's a Minority Government silly. And the problem Scotland has is that the main opposition party will only play sensible consensus politics when they are top dog. So Major should've had it all his own way back in the 90's, but that was never going to happen with Salmond in a different political landscape, era, and even country.

And that strange assumption you have about taking responsibility is a double-edged sword. Over-reliance on Westminster, even during devolution, has meant that taking real responsibility has been denied to Scotland. Let's hope that a referendum or at the very least, a strong Calman recommendation, reduces our reliance and increases our responsibility.

On the booze issue, you seem very cavalier. Legal or not, alcohol is a serious drug. One 18-year old who turns friendly and happy after a half bottle of vodka, doesn't hide the fact that another 18-year old turns into an aggressive monster by drinking the other half. That's the effect alcohol has. Whether this policy was right or not, we all need to face up to the seriousness of alcohol.

This weekly 'nat-bashing' might make you feel good, but it does pose the question about whether you are in touch with the same political reality as everyone else.
6

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 05/10/2008 00:53:52
AM2

I don't agree that we're in a much stronger position as part of the UK, within the current constitutional set-up, but I do agree with your point about Scotland's self confidence. Well said.
7

ochone,

Sauchie, clack's 05/10/2008 01:11:36
Please folks don't fall for it, Kennys down for an on line stint today so comes up with some provocitive rubbish to get folk to help him out.

Just leave him to twiddle his thumbs and sniff the tipex!
8

donald,

glasgow 05/10/2008 01:47:20
Salmond does no have to bring in a failed crook, due to lack of talent in his gene pool. He has also been given gift in British Nationalist Jim Murphy
9

Team Scotland,

To a Louse 05/10/2008 02:40:07

"So why routinely undermine this by habitually blaming others?"

O wad some Power the gift tae gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us



10

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 05/10/2008 06:13:03
#9 Be Britain still to Britain true,
Amang oursels united!
For never but by British hands
Maun British wrangs be righted!
11

Pilrig,

Livingston 05/10/2008 06:33:48
10 in theory - fine, in practice - no.
12

First Minister,

05/10/2008 08:44:42
Kenny
Paul Stewart
Once again Kenny you regurgitate old problems, can you not change tact or something? I can reccommend a good book, it is called "The Sedona Method" by Hale Dwoskin, probably available on Amazon. ( t is all about leeting go and moving on, how to build new relationships etc, maybe you could try it? )
How are your circulation/advertising/shares,etc holding out? Like the downfall of The Bank Of Scotland, there are a lot of worried Scottish People worried about Losing The Scotsman/SOS, are you?
13

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 05/10/2008 09:11:48
Since time immemorial, prior to elections, every political party makes numerous pledges and promises which, for various reasons, once in power they have subsequently been unable to deliver.

It has also been proved in election after election that political parties also have hidden agendas and policies which are only revealed after they gain power!

The Nationalists are no different from the rest.
14

bus user,

edinburgh 05/10/2008 11:43:42
Oh Dear, Kenny. While is is absolutely the case that Slmond needs a slap to keep him honest, there is no-one on the Labour benches at Holyrood, or in the dismal crew of Labour MPs, remotely capable of administering it. That is where you should be directing your ire. Who will point out in terms that voters will relly understand, that the local income tax proposal will not fly? Who will point out in terms that SNP voters will understnd, that the so-called Future Trust is also not going to fly? Glorified municipal bonds to pay for roads and bridges? I don't think so. The SNP Government is in the same position that every government finds itself in. That is, trapped by the liberal consenus [within the media and chatterati of G12] into the belief that votes come from throwing taxpayers' money at health, education and welfare rather than building up the nation's infrastructure and slowly but surely getting us to take responsibility for ourselves. But, of course, LAbour in Scotland had 50 years of creating the situation that I am asking them to challenge, so not much chance then.
15

Team Scotland,

05/10/2008 12:21:03

# 10 Mercutio,

Did he write anything that rhymes with tangential?



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05/10/2008 13:04:53
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17

Conway,

05/10/2008 14:13:07
Dont bite !
Kenny is after a job at either the Times or the BBC.
18

kirk 1,

05/10/2008 14:37:49
Dear Kenny you quote "The fact that Salmond actually has the power to keep his manifesto promises by raising income tax is conveniently forgotten."

You do actually know it's a minority government don't you? Salmond has no more power in Holyrood than Mr Gray has over the Labour party in Scotland.
19

brownlie,

05/10/2008 17:10:09
Kenny,

Are you really the Assistant Editor and you've obviously not read the Concordat between the Scottish Government and COSLA. You wrongly claim that the SNP are saying "We only make the policy" when in fact the concordat states that agreement was reached with COSLA after detailed negotiations and that agreement was reached on the basis of mutual respect and PARTNERSHIP. One of the issues that COSLA were committed to was the provisions of school meals to P1, P2 and P3.

You write about the failure to have a coalition deal. The negativity that surrounds the opposition parties which leads them to oppose the SNP on every issue is hardly conducive to a coalition. This opposition is not based on principle or policies and is certainly not for the benefit of the Scottish public - a prime example being the Edinburgh trams.

Under these circumstance who do you suggest he could have formed a coalition with and what concessions should he have offered?

The accusation of "wingeing" could have come straight from an over-excited George Foulkes. Was the drink flowing the last time he was used by the Scotsman as the pet in-house sound-bite stooge or, as your paper puts it, "a Senior Labour politician"?
20

Guga II,

Rockall 05/10/2008 17:43:12
Mr. Assistant Editor,

I see the Hootsmon On-line poll has been got at, again.

It has gone from an 82% No vote this morning to an unbelievable 85% Yes vote this afternoon.

Either someone at the Hootsmon is fiddling with the figures, or, due to the incompetence of your IT staff, there have been a few Labour supporters indulging in massive multiple voting. The latter being possible as your site allows for such multiple voting.

If the Hootsmon is unable to conduct an honest and reliable poll, perhaps you shouldn't bother.
21

Alberto.,

05/10/2008 19:35:24
#12 sm753!

"The article correctly identifies that the SNP's 2007 manifesto was a fraud based on the principle "promise goodies - if we can't deliver, we'll blame someone else"

***************

Wakey!Wakey! - It's nothing to do simply with the SNP's 2007 Manifesto being a fraud!

Promises! Promises! Promises! Alway has to be, it is impossible for them to have total and serious commitment - without a get out!' (they don't like it you know!) - it's too frightening and can never be guaranteed - it's aka 'the Great British Political System Game' where the driving ambition, currently, is simply to 'Get in on it!' and 'Get out of it what you can!'

And don't they have a 'Jolly Good' arrangement for doing so, where, it seems, 'anything goes' for the 'We can do no wrong!' Club and it's members!!!

Any suggestions for the 'second' most shameful Profession?
22

First Minister,

Markinch 05/10/2008 19:40:32
GUGA II
I was online last year and in front of my very eyes, a poll which asked "would Jack McConnell make a better FM than Alex Salmond", move from 89% against to 75% in the other direction right in front of me, it was bizarre to say the least, i was also at a SOS Debate on The Union last May, and yet again SOS lied over the % in favour of Self-Determination.Pravda? Or Nat Paranoia?
23

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 19:42:14
Good lord. Did Kenny Farquharson actually write this polemic of scarcely-credible drivel, or did one of the comment-section trolls pen it for him?

"The Scottish voter won't take kindly to this."

Is he really trying to make us believe that people are angry with the SNP, just a matter of weeks after Glasgow East and just as the bookies make them massive odds-on favourites to overturn a huge Labour majority in Glenrothes?

"Our councils are responsible for vast swathes of citizens' lives - too much to be simply left to get on with it."

Does he really think the Scottish people are so stupid as not to be able to read the concordat that COSLA willingly signed, committing themselves in the most black-and-white terms imaginable to implementing the school meals scheme with no further funding? The SNP have upheld their side of the concordat, if the people have a problem with anyone it's with the (minority of) local authorities who seem to be reneging on their end.

There's one true sentence in among the comical, sub-Andy Kerr (and that's quite a trick in itself) garbage, though:

"It panders to one of the least attractive facets of the Scottish mindset - the inability to take responsibility."

If only there was a party that actively wanted Scotland to take full and total responsibility for itself instead of running a pocket-money "please sir" economy from Westminster, eh?
24

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 19:45:40
Oh, and this is a PEACH:

"Salmond's first instinct on winning last year's election was to forge a coalition deal to ensure stable government. In fact, he couldn't bring himself to make the necessary concessions to make this happen"

The "necessary concessions" being, of course, the mere trifle of abandoning the core and fundamental purpose of the entire existence of the SNP in the first place - the pursuit of Scottish independence. What a ludicrous, insane demand - why, you might as well expect Labour to completely expunge the word "socialism" from their - oh.
25

Kenny Farquharson,

SoS 05/10/2008 19:55:37
Hello playmates.
Welcome to this Sunday evening's webchat. I'll respond to some of your comments in a mo, but feel free to raise any other issue of the day.
26

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:00:28
# 25 The Rev

"the mere trifle of abandoning the core and fundamental purpose of the entire existence of the SNP in the first place - the pursuit of Scottish independence."

I think you may be surprised how much this very question has been debated privately in the upper reaches of the SNP in the years previous to 2007. i.e. how wise it was to commit the party to a referendum that might have to be held in inopportune circumstances.

27

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 20:01:18
And since we're now past 8pm, here's a direct and simple question.

"The fact that Salmond actually has the power to keep his manifesto promises by raising income tax is conveniently forgotten."

As has already been pointed out, of course, he doesn't. The SNP is a minority administration. So come on, Kenny - in this scenario, whose co-operation is it you expect the SNP to get in order to get a bill raising income tax in Scotland by 3p? Is it:

(a) the Lib Dems - currently a party fiercely advocation a hefty CUT in income tax?

(b) the Tories, those well-known fans of tax-and-spend?

or (c) Labour, who would presumably work with the SNP to make Scotland the highest-taxed part of the UK, even though they're describing that self-same situation as a scandalous outrage when they portray it as a result of LIT?

Which is it, Kenny? Which party/parties would vote with the SNP to pass that income-tax hike which you claim is in their power? Let's hear it.
28

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:02:20
# 18 Conway

"Kenny is after a job at...the Times"

Been there, done that. I was at The Sunday Times for nine years.

29

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:03:57
# 7 ochone
"Please folks don't fall for it, Kennys down for an on line stint today so comes up with some provocitive rubbish to get folk to help him out."

Correct! (apart from the 'rubbish' part)
30

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:09:10
# 28 Rev

I'm glad you raised that.

Yes, the SNP is a minority administration, but that doesn't stop it bringing forward any legislation it chooses (and believes in) and trying to get the backing of the other parties.

He could ask parliament for support to raise the Tartan Tax to help students and first-time buyers, but he chooses not to.

also,,,(see next post)
31

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 20:10:54
"I think you may be surprised how much this very question has been debated privately in the upper reaches of the SNP in the years previous to 2007."

Whether that's true or not, it's hardly reasonable to portray publicly abandoning the party's founding principle as a "concession", is it? Abandon the commitment to an independence referendum - on the very day the people have just elected you to government on the strength of it - and you might as well wind the party up and nail the doors closed.

There's no law against a journalist being a Unionist and using his publication to pursue that agenda - I know that because I'm one myself and I checked the rules. But there IS a professional obligation to do so in a less deranged, intelligence-insulting manner than these drunken Saturday-night haverings.
32

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 20:13:12
"Yes, the SNP is a minority administration, but that doesn't stop it bringing forward any legislation it chooses (and believes in) and trying to get the backing of the other parties."

Right. So they should waste God knows how much of everyone's time and money bringing forward legislation that would be as popular as trying to resurrect Hitler, and which everyone else is guaranteed to vote against? Haven't you spent the last six months telling us that they should abandon LIT on similar grounds, even though LIT actually *does* have a very decent chance of becoming law?
33

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:14:22
....also....
this gives me the opportunity to raise a point I didn't have time to get round to in my column.

If Salmond is genuinely committed to pushing through his policies on class sizes, school meals or anything else that is delivered by local government, there is a simple way of doing it - legislate, and try to win the backing of a majority of MSPs. If it's on the statute book, councils have to implement it.

But there was nothing about class sizes in Salmond's legislative programme, announced a wee while ago. Why? If it's such a good idea (and it was a one of the three or four key planks of the SNP manifesto) why not do everything you can to make it happen? I was a bit baffled by this, and I still am.
34

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:17:29
# 33

Answer me this.

What key objective of Local Income Tax could not be achieved with a radical reform of Council Tax (eg, concessions for pensioners; rebanding to get more cash from the rich and reduce the burden on the poor; etc, etc)
35

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:19:44
#32

"these drunken Saturday-night haverings."

They're Saturday afternoon haverings, and no alcohol was consumed while writing them.

Can't absolutely make the same guaranteee fo tonight, though..
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 20:20:14
"If it's such a good idea (and it was a one of the three or four key planks of the SNP manifesto) why not do everything you can to make it happen?"

Ah, I see. So what you want is for the SNP to make every possible reasonable effort to implement the key points of their manifesto. Let's see if I can remember the two biggest ones, which they were elected on the strength of - ah, here we are:

1. Hold an independence referendum.
2. Scrap the Council Tax in favour of LIT.

So presumably you want the SNP to do everything in their power to keep those manifesto commitments, Kenny? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm having a little trouble keeping up with your positions.
37

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:22:22
# 32
"..you might as well wind the party up and nail the doors closed."

It all depends on whether the party has one single and all-consuming purpose, or whether it exists to provide good governance and sound leadership for the Scottish people, regardless of the constitutional framework. Again, this has been the source of high-level discussion in the party for many years, and quite right too.
38

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 20:24:35
#35 Fairness. The house someone lives in is not necessarily any indication of their wealth. I should know - I live in the terrifyingly expensive city of Bath, and even grotesquely poor people here often live in houses which, in themselves, are worth a fortune. LIT isn't perfect in terms of fairness (clearly something needs to be arranged in respect of those with unearned income), but it's a huge advance in terms of differentiating between the wealth of people who OWN valuable properties and those very considerably poorer people who merely rent a couple of rooms in them.
39

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 05/10/2008 20:28:29
#38 "It all depends on whether the party has one single and all-consuming purpose, or whether it exists to provide good governance and sound leadership for the Scottish people, regardless of the constitutional framework."

It has one PRIME purpose, easily identified from its name - Scottish nationalism, which is to say the restoration of a Scottish nation. From that, it follows (philosophically, in practice is a matter for opinion and debate) that the second scenario will self-evidently arise from the first.
40

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:30:16
# 14 Lachie

"Since time immemorial, prior to elections, every political party makes numerous pledges and promises which, for various reasons, once in power they have subsequently been unable to deliver."

Aye, but I hope in a few years a clever politics student will compare the Labour manifestos of 99 and 03 with the SNP manifesto of 07, and work out how many of the key pledges were actually implemented.

They might also like to look at Holyrood's legislative programme over the three parliaments, aqnd ask whcih got the most done by virtue of having an administration that commanded a majority of MSPs.

There's a lot to be said, politically, for a minority govt. It's much easier to project a single and coherent message to the voters. But there's a downside too.
41

Team Scotland,

05/10/2008 20:31:56
Most majority governments are not in the end able, or on reflection willing, to implement every manifesto pledge during their full term so why the shrill cries regarding a minority government that is 18 months into a 4 year term that is now having to deal with the consequences of a major financial crisis.

The school meals issue is a case in point COSLA accepted the principal of introducing free meals for p1-3. Some councils are now complaining because of a change in economic circumstances in particular food inflation. This is not the councils fault but neither is it the SNP’s. “Events dear boy, events.”
42

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:32:44
# 5 BOD
"Over-reliance on Westminster, even during devolution, has meant that taking real responsibility has been denied to Scotland. Let's hope that a referendum or at the very least, a strong Calman recommendation, reduces our reliance and increases our responsibility."

Amen to that.
43

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:34:13
# 42 Team

Then the SNP should force the councils' hand with legislation.

But they won't, because Salmond has to keep the council leaders sweet.
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Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:38:18
# 2

"Notice how Farquharson never mentions his Luvvy Labour chums ( Restless Nation) Kirsty Wark and her man Alan Clements"

I co-wrote a book (Restless Nation, Mainstream, 1996) with Alan and Kirsty. It's a damn good read and I recommend it to you.

(I have to declare interest: I get 0.00000001p every time someone borrows it from a library. Caviar, anyone?)
45

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:45:00
# 15
"The SNP Government is in the same position that every government finds itself in. That is, trapped by the liberal consenus [within the media and chatterati of G12] into the belief that votes come from throwing taxpayers' money at health, education and welfare rather than building up the nation's infrastructure and slowly but surely getting us to take responsibility for ourselves."

Yes, there is a liberal consensus in Scotland. That's why parties that reflect that consensus have the habit of being elected (whatever constitutional fandangelry they happen to prefer).

Most Scots see decent schools and decent hospitals as a fundament of a good society.


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Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 05/10/2008 20:49:49
Kenny

The SNP's 'curious' policy of freezing Council tax has spread to the next ruling UK Government party, i.e. Cameron & Co. What next Osborne, LIT?

It seems that, as Jim Murphy put it only yesterday, the SNP have occasionally, some good policies. Only trouble is, few opposition parties in Holyrood recognise these policies. Their partisan behaviour always gets the better of them. Are they still living in the 'first-past-the-post' past?
47

Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:50:59
# 40

"It has one PRIME purpose, easily identified from its name - Scottish nationalism, which is to say the restoration of a Scottish nation. From that, it follows (philosophically, in practice is a matter for opinion and debate) that the second scenario will self-evidently arise from the first."

That was indeed the SNP's position for many years. One of Salmond's great political triumphs - one that changed the history of Scotlsnd - was when he turned it the other way round. Now the SNP's position is that the first will arise form the second.
48

Team Scotland,

05/10/2008 20:51:00
44 Kenny Farquharson
I disagree, the councils have a point, even if they (those who are complaining) are over egging the cake.

A high handed approach will only encourage future friction. There will be a compromise that will allow this (in my view good) proposal to go forward.

On a more general note. I am not an SNP member but a fairly solid SNP voter. When they narrowly won in 2007 my expectation was that they would crash and burn but at least when they next came to power they would have a team that had experience of government. This has not been the case they have been a breath of fresh air. Much of what they have already implemented is now being copied by the UK government. For a party that has never governed and that is the first minority administration they are doing a good job. The opinion polls, reestablishment of a full time Secretary of State, the postponement of the Glenrothes by-election, Jack McConnells sidestepping of a Holyrood by-election, and John Prescott’s reaction to SNP supporters today suggests this is not just my view.
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Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:54:56
# 49 Team

Compromise is always welcome. But for me, education should be at the centre of any administration's priorities. On schools, this administration does not appear to have the courage of its convictions.
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Kenny Farquharson,

05/10/2008 20:59:38
That's me about to log off now. Many thanks for your comments - yes, all of them - and to those of you who logged in to spectate. If anyone wants to ask me a question in a less public forum, please feel free to email me on kenny.farquharson@scotlandonsunday.com.
Night night.
51

Team Scotland,

05/10/2008 20:59:52
50 Kenny Farquharson

I agree about education but the haggling has just startd on that one and there has to be some time to allow for debate.
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Buckpool Loon,

Cheshire 05/10/2008 21:10:25
Question Mr Farquharson. Westminster gives a fair and competent deal to the people it's supposed to serve?

The minutia of devilish detail can often swamp even the chiels of fact.
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The_Reiver,

05/10/2008 21:49:57
Salmond is losing his credibility because he now believes his own myth. Any criticism of his policies and party is put down with authoritarian disdain. Let us get rid of this demagogue before he mucks up all our lives.

 

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